350hr to upgrade
08-12-2023, 11:17 AM
#11
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yes, it’s true, AND the company can force new hires into this, which completely alleviates the Captain issue within 12 months and also takes the Captain issue off the table for future leverage. This was touted by Kirby in the last earnings call when he bragged to investors that he was certain the Captain issue limiting growth would be gone by the end of next year.
buddy bidding with LCPs- will send a lot of senior FOs to the left seat because the money won’t be there anymore.
CA situation will be solved and we subsidized a big part of it
08-12-2023, 11:34 AM
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Position: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.
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yes, it’s true, AND the company can force new hires into this, which completely alleviates the Captain issue within 12 months and also takes the Captain issue off the table for future leverage. This was touted by Kirby in the last earnings call when he bragged to investors that he was certain the Captain issue limiting growth would be gone by the end of next year.
08-12-2023, 12:27 PM
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yes, it’s true, AND the company can force new hires into this, which completely alleviates the Captain issue within 12 months and also takes the Captain issue off the table for future leverage. This was touted by Kirby in the last earnings call when he bragged to investors that he was certain the Captain issue limiting growth would be gone by the end of next year.
08-12-2023, 02:03 PM
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Mmm k.
08-12-2023, 02:38 PM
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don’t forget that fewer FOs will be getting bought off for instructor flying.
08-12-2023, 06:27 PM
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I agree that we gave away most PPU with the new reserve rules, but either I glanced over it or can’t find it. Is the contract changing WRT the OE withhold on PBS?
08-12-2023, 06:49 PM
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LCP Override of 25% of 12 yr CA pay rate of highest paying aircraft in operation; attaches when trip becomes frozen (regardless if LCP duties are conducted) • Initially $106.49 per hour for entire trip Up to 60% of awarded flying days of an LCPs PBS schedule can be frozen immediately
will wait for final language of course, but I read this as- if you want the big override you freeze your schedule immediately. Since CA awards are generated first PBS will then prevent FOs from being awarded these trips during the PBS run, thereby eliminating the need to buy them off. Perhaps only “60%” of the schedule but still a large chunk given that most FOs bidding this way are, and will be well above $106.49/hr
08-12-2023, 07:03 PM
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from the bullet points:
LCP Override of 25% of 12 yr CA pay rate of highest paying aircraft in operation; attaches when trip becomes frozen (regardless if LCP duties are conducted) • Initially $106.49 per hour for entire trip Up to 60% of awarded flying days of an LCPs PBS schedule can be frozen immediately
will wait for final language of course, but I read this as- if you want the big override you freeze your schedule immediately. Since CA awards are generated first PBS will then prevent FOs from being awarded these trips during the PBS run, thereby eliminating the need to buy them off. Perhaps only “60%” of the schedule but still a large chunk given that most FOs bidding this way are, and will be well above $106.49/hr
LCP Override of 25% of 12 yr CA pay rate of highest paying aircraft in operation; attaches when trip becomes frozen (regardless if LCP duties are conducted) • Initially $106.49 per hour for entire trip Up to 60% of awarded flying days of an LCPs PBS schedule can be frozen immediately
will wait for final language of course, but I read this as- if you want the big override you freeze your schedule immediately. Since CA awards are generated first PBS will then prevent FOs from being awarded these trips during the PBS run, thereby eliminating the need to buy them off. Perhaps only “60%” of the schedule but still a large chunk given that most FOs bidding this way are, and will be well above $106.49/hr
08-12-2023, 07:04 PM
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from the bullet points:
LCP Override of 25% of 12 yr CA pay rate of highest paying aircraft in operation; attaches when trip becomes frozen (regardless if LCP duties are conducted) • Initially $106.49 per hour for entire trip Up to 60% of awarded flying days of an LCPs PBS schedule can be frozen immediately
will wait for final language of course, but I read this as- if you want the big override you freeze your schedule immediately. Since CA awards are generated first PBS will then prevent FOs from being awarded these trips during the PBS run, thereby eliminating the need to buy them off. Perhaps only “60%” of the schedule but still a large chunk given that most FOs bidding this way are, and will be well above $106.49/hr
LCP Override of 25% of 12 yr CA pay rate of highest paying aircraft in operation; attaches when trip becomes frozen (regardless if LCP duties are conducted) • Initially $106.49 per hour for entire trip Up to 60% of awarded flying days of an LCPs PBS schedule can be frozen immediately
will wait for final language of course, but I read this as- if you want the big override you freeze your schedule immediately. Since CA awards are generated first PBS will then prevent FOs from being awarded these trips during the PBS run, thereby eliminating the need to buy them off. Perhaps only “60%” of the schedule but still a large chunk given that most FOs bidding this way are, and will be well above $106.49/hr
08-12-2023, 07:25 PM
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Under current book 75% of the anticipated OE required trips can be blocked. An LCA can block 1 trip a month to not have to do OE. Again, final language will be the determiner but my math says 60% freeze is less than 75%.
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