Maui 777
08-12-2023, 07:34 AM
#61
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I’m nobody & hoss may well be privy to information I’m not.
08-12-2023, 07:53 AM
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08-12-2023, 07:55 AM
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08-12-2023, 10:08 AM
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At my last airline, we always used the intercom. Same equipment here, the majority of pilots act like keeping the intercom off will impress Jodie Foster. I find myself more times than I should having to ask a callout to be repeated because I can't understand what they just asked for. I don't know what the SOP is on the 777 but I can totally see this exact scenario happening on my fleet.
08-12-2023, 10:12 AM
#65
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Yeah…unfortunately we don’t do that here. Many of these more “seasoned” captains prefer using the ear dicks and no intercom because “if it’s good enough for Mission Control at NASA then it’s good enough for us.” Honestly it’s a safety issue when you can’t converse with the person next to you.
Its sad but funny.
Truth too.
08-12-2023, 12:57 PM
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08-12-2023, 03:48 PM
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I’m not sure why the hostility but at least help me understand the conspiracy angle. As I read it, the story is FP stops focusing on flying the plane during a power & configuration change in turbulent air under IMC & ends up in an unusual attitude. Why does that demand further information? Exactly what part of that doesn’t pass your sniff test?
Hoss is a big boy & is free to clarify his cryptic statement if he wants to. If not, there isn’t much point in you & I debating over what he may or may not have meant, wouldn’t you say?
Hoss is a big boy & is free to clarify his cryptic statement if he wants to. If not, there isn’t much point in you & I debating over what he may or may not have meant, wouldn’t you say?
08-12-2023, 05:17 PM
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But from a safety standpoint the question is why did a high time professional pilot allow themselves to fixate, lose SA and almost crash an airplane over a completely benign mis set flap handle. And that is far more complex answer than what you wrote above.
I see human factors, flying skill, instrument misinterpretation, improper response, CRM, and training issues to name a few. Simply stated that was a situation that any mildly accomplished professional pilot should be able to handle without the slightest amount of trouble.
Edited to add:
There’s not a single solitary one of you losers on here that are qualified to give me a “happy ending”.
08-12-2023, 05:53 PM
#70
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I’m not sure why the hostility but at least help me understand the conspiracy angle. As I read it, the story is FP stops focusing on flying the plane during a power & configuration change in turbulent air under IMC & ends up in an unusual attitude. Why does that demand further information? Exactly what part of that doesn’t pass your sniff test?
Hoss is a big boy & is free to clarify his cryptic statement if he wants to. If not, there isn’t much point in you & I debating over what he may or may not have meant, wouldn’t you say?
Hoss is a big boy & is free to clarify his cryptic statement if he wants to. If not, there isn’t much point in you & I debating over what he may or may not have meant, wouldn’t you say?
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