Maui 777
08-18-2023, 06:18 AM
#131
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Well, some of us have personal experience with dumbasses not using them at inopportune times, missing ATC calls, missing flap/gear call, whatever.
In this case, it led to almost losing a 777 and potentially billions of dollars in business through lost confidence. So yeah, why wouldn't we be tightly wound about something that's easily fixable?
The only argument against it has essentially been "i do what I want, hehehehehe". That's highly annoying to those of us who have been put in an unsafe or easily avoidable situation by someone because of CRM and them not being able to hear anything due to their refusal to use a headset and/or intercom.
In this case, it led to almost losing a 777 and potentially billions of dollars in business through lost confidence. So yeah, why wouldn't we be tightly wound about something that's easily fixable?
The only argument against it has essentially been "i do what I want, hehehehehe". That's highly annoying to those of us who have been put in an unsafe or easily avoidable situation by someone because of CRM and them not being able to hear anything due to their refusal to use a headset and/or intercom.
08-18-2023, 06:28 AM
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So, while you may not have met any, there are definitely at least a few Gen X or younger pilots who don't wear noise cancelling headsets (personally, I don't understand it, but not my call...)
08-18-2023, 06:30 AM
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My 35 year old FO on my last two trips used the Telex 750's supplied by the company. Meanwhile 59 year old me wears a Bose Proflight headset. He said at his previous gig - Spirit - pretty much everyone wore company headsets, so he was fine with them.
So, while you may not have met any, there are definitely at least a few Gen X or younger pilots who don't wear noise cancelling headsets (personally, I don't understand it, but not my call...)
So, while you may not have met any, there are definitely at least a few Gen X or younger pilots who don't wear noise cancelling headsets (personally, I don't understand it, but not my call...)
08-18-2023, 09:20 AM
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08-18-2023, 10:05 AM
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Ignoring; John Burke.
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That reminds me of a story I heard from an ex-pat captain in China. it was a smaller domestic carrier, 737 I think. His first line trip, after engine started he called for flaps 5. The local Chinese FO looked at him funny, as if he didn’t understand. Captain repeats command. FO jumps up, goes to the back and returns with a cola for the captain!🥵
08-19-2023, 09:50 AM
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Also as a total aside, headsets help reduce miscommunication below 18k, it would be nice if pilots wore them during that phase of flight.
08-19-2023, 09:56 AM
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Thank you.
08-19-2023, 12:34 PM
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