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08-04-2023, 06:09 AM

#21

JoePatroni

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Originally Posted by Gooselives

riding the delta wave.

only reason we are getting a contract so late is the recalls and bigot being pushed by aw thank you?

Actually it’s because fools like you got outvoted 94-6.

08-05-2023, 07:26 AM

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Jefferson

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Originally Posted by dmeg13021

luckily AW was able to step in and get you the contract you deserve

you spelled DL wrong

08-05-2023, 10:29 AM

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Sniper66

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Actually it’s because fools like you got outvoted 94-6.

bingo
don’t waste your time with the 6%
it hurts that they got the boot and history will remember those reps NC and MEC names

08-06-2023, 12:46 PM

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ClappedOut145

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luckily AW was able to step in and get you the contract you deserve

How is it that AW is the DCA FO rep? What exactly does a widebody, lineholding captain have in common with a First Officer? Seems like it would be prudent to actually have a first officer represent them.

08-06-2023, 01:48 PM

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PK387

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Believe she was an FO when she started her term. That term is up this coming Feb anyway, so it's a moot point in six months.

08-06-2023, 02:16 PM

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DarkSideMoon

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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145

I’m fine with it. You’re either going to artificially limit someone’s career progression (and make an already kind of unappealing job even more unappealing) or leaving a representative vacancy in the middle of a term which also may not be desirable.

08-06-2023, 02:41 PM

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3678881[/url]]I’m fine with it. You’re either going to artificially limit someone’s career progression (and make an already kind of unappealing job even more unappealing) or leaving a representative vacancy in the middle of a term which also may not be desirable.

uhh, you have another election…it’s actually that simple and happens all of the time in regionals when reps leave in the middle of a term….

08-06-2023, 02:55 PM

#28

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Originally Posted by Gooselives

only reason we are getting a contract so late is the recalls and bigot being pushed by aw thank you?

So true. We could have been enjoying the TUMI work concessions for over a year now if we hadn’t been so greedy. Now we’ve missed our chance to lock in mandatory early reserve & we’re stuck w/ a DOS raise that exceeds the 3 year life of the original offer.

Instead of recalls we should have voted to appoint TI for life- we could be getting new luggage every 3-5 years.

08-06-2023, 03:21 PM

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DarkSideMoon

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uhh, you have another election…it’s actually that simple and happens all of the time in regionals when reps leave in the middle of a term….

Sure, what I mean is there’s value in continuity of representation. It takes time to get reps up to speed and I don’t think we need to chuck them halfway through their term just because they upgrade. It’s one thing if they leave the company, it’s another if they upgrade halfway through their term. It’s no more of a conflict than a super senior lineholder FO holding that spot “not being able to understand” a super junior reserve. Or a WB FO representing NB FO’s.

Just seems like another cheap shot from the people that brought us Tumi. I just don’t care if someone upgrades halfway through their term. They don’t suddenly forget what it was like to be an FO the day they show up to charm school. I’d rather they finish out their term and then be ineligible for reelection.