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Old 08-09-2023, 09:12 AM
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The sooner I am not responsible for getting in and out of EWR the better, not worried about their diluted lines, it’s mostly commuters anyways, bring on the outstations!
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Old 08-11-2023, 11:54 AM
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The sooner I am not responsible for getting in and out of EWR the better, not worried about their diluted lines, it’s mostly commuters anyways, bring on the outstations!
The mco / gigantic iah 737 base is a disaster for the ewr 737 operation. They have had a ridiculous amount of missed trips in one week in ewr alone. When 70% of the base is commuting on primarily 737's and that base has been shrunk to its smallest size in a decade... there is no one to pick up the broken pairings or premium pay when you absolutely need to recover. Half the base is at 90 hr lines, there is zero ability to trade days because staffing is so low causing sick calls, and they simply can't get people from other bases quickly enough.

Either you positive space commuters in busy months or give a cost of living stipend to staff ewr. You can't run an unreliable operation and ask commuters to spend one of their 13 days off coming in 24 hrs early. The outstation idea might work but you can't shrink a base and fleet that needs to be robust for bad weather and a disaster of an operation on a good day. I think we are going to see a lot of not pilot friendly knee jerk reactions before manpower planning admits fault in this situation.
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Old 08-11-2023, 12:49 PM
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Can we just abandon the NYC market? Is it really that important?
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Old 08-11-2023, 12:59 PM
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Can we just abandon the NYC market? Is it really that important?
United is the largest airline in New Jersey! We don’t really have much presence in NYC (La Guardia, JFK)
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Old 08-11-2023, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice Bear
Can we just abandon the NYC market? Is it really that important?
Is this sarcasm? EWR is a money making machine historically….. Yes, it is really that important…
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Old 08-11-2023, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
The mco / gigantic iah 737 base is a disaster for the ewr 737 operation. They have had a ridiculous amount of missed trips in one week in ewr alone. When 70% of the base is commuting on primarily 737's and that base has been shrunk to its smallest size in a decade... there is no one to pick up the broken pairings or premium pay when you absolutely need to recover. Half the base is at 90 hr lines, there is zero ability to trade days because staffing is so low causing sick calls, and they simply can't get people from other bases quickly enough.

Either you positive space commuters in busy months or give a cost of living stipend to staff ewr. You can't run an unreliable operation and ask commuters to spend one of their 13 days off coming in 24 hrs early. The outstation idea might work but you can't shrink a base and fleet that needs to be robust for bad weather and a disaster of an operation on a good day. I think we are going to see a lot of not pilot friendly knee jerk reactions before manpower planning admits fault in this situation.

All the Jersey shore types who told me I was stupid to commute to EWR from Florida should be having a field day with all the PPU, and now I drive to work so it seems like a win all the way around. But for some reason I keep seeing NYC 737 bidding MCO on every vacancy?? Strange
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Old 08-11-2023, 07:17 PM
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3681166[/url]]The mco / gigantic iah 737 base is a disaster for the ewr 737 operation. They have had a ridiculous amount of missed trips in one week in ewr alone. When 70% of the base is commuting on primarily 737's and that base has been shrunk to its smallest size in a decade... there is no one to pick up the broken pairings or premium pay when you absolutely need to recover. Half the base is at 90 hr lines, there is zero ability to trade days because staffing is so low causing sick calls, and they simply can't get people from other bases quickly enough.

Either you positive space commuters in busy months or give a cost of living stipend to staff ewr. You can't run an unreliable operation and ask commuters to spend one of their 13 days off coming in 24 hrs early. The outstation idea might work but you can't shrink a base and fleet that needs to be robust for bad weather and a disaster of an operation on a good day. I think we are going to see a lot of not pilot friendly knee jerk reactions before manpower planning admits fault in this situation.
EWR needs to shrink, it’s been beyond capacity for far too long. And it’s not about cost of living, it’s a dump out there.
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Old 08-12-2023, 04:26 PM
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I would love to see FLL
but I think only if gates come available after the JB/NK merge

maybe
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Old 08-12-2023, 05:05 PM
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I would love to see FLL
but I think only if gates come available after the JB/NK merge

maybe

pilot-wise, agreed S. FL would be awesome but I think UA made its play for Florida with mco.

disney is a huge part of the equation and suspect after the new contract a symbiotic deal will be announced to feed international markets into this base (or future hub?)
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Originally Posted by mrmak2
pilot-wise, agreed S. FL would be awesome but I think UA made its play for Florida with mco.

disney is a huge part of the equation and suspect after the new contract a symbiotic deal will be announced to feed international markets into this base (or future hub?)
I think for any, MIA, FLL, or MCO. Choice one, not any more.
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