Remember the limits are different overseas
08-01-2023, 12:47 PM
#11
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Atta boy/girl! If you can’t tell the difference between a couple beers or glasses of wine with dinner 14 hrs before departure vs the action required to report with a .132 then there’s no hope.
08-01-2023, 12:55 PM
#12
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Just personal preference, I don’t judge when guys down a few on a 12.5 hour overnight. We’re all built differently and one beer or six beers I generally sleep like garbage.
08-01-2023, 01:10 PM
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I just sleep like garbage even after 1 beer so unless I have time to sleep in I skip. I also prefer to have either more than just one or two with dinner or none at all. Never been worried about showing up .132. Although in Europe I’d be pretty leery of even one or two 12 hours out just on the off chance you blow .01.
Just personal preference, I don’t judge when guys down a few on a 12.5 hour overnight. We’re all built differently and one beer or six beers I generally sleep like garbage.
Just personal preference, I don’t judge when guys down a few on a 12.5 hour overnight. We’re all built differently and one beer or six beers I generally sleep like garbage.
One or two and it’s out of your system in 3-6 hrs. The issue isn’t about a time limits. The population demographic (in all facets of career and life) that continually appear on the radar operate outside the norms of limits. They need help.
08-01-2023, 01:37 PM
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Alcohol is eliminated at 0.015% per hour, so to even blow a 0.01% 12 hrs later you would have had to stop drink with a BAC of 0.19.
Sorry but even 3 or 4 beers won’t get you even closeeee to that!
There is nooooo way guys are getting busted who have stopped drinking 12:01 before duty who have had a few beers.
Let’s not kid ourselves, they people getting busted even in Europe/UK were hammered and don’t know when to stop
Sorry but even 3 or 4 beers won’t get you even closeeee to that!
There is nooooo way guys are getting busted who have stopped drinking 12:01 before duty who have had a few beers.
Let’s not kid ourselves, they people getting busted even in Europe/UK were hammered and don’t know when to stop
08-01-2023, 04:20 PM
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Article says this happened on Sunday and the guy got a six month suspended prison sentence and license revoked (not sure what license France can revoke). That was fast...
08-01-2023, 09:26 PM
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The license revocation was most likely in the states. Showing up to operate while under the influence is an automatic forfeiture of all certs. Not necessarily an automatic loss of employment, but at 63 I’m sure he has decided to decline the HIMS program.
08-02-2023, 06:20 AM
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Best approach is not to get hammered on overnights, and stop at a reasonable time, well before FAR limits.
08-02-2023, 07:25 AM
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a little inaccurate reporting but the net effect is the same for flying in Europe
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