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08-15-2023, 05:43 PM

#291

Vito

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Swedish Blender,

I’m not an OE Instructor, I just mention to my F/O’s if they have deferred speedbrakes, to make sure the Capt deploys them slowly after touchdown. I also brief them that I will not slam them out quickly.

08-16-2023, 09:17 AM

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Tesla S

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Has the crew composition been confirmed? Background? Experience? IOE?

08-16-2023, 11:16 AM

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EyeKantEven

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Originally Posted by Vito

Swedish Blender,

... if they have deferred speedbrakes, to make sure the Capt deploys them slowly after touchdown.

Is this written in the MEL as a requirement or advisory? If not, maybe it should?

08-16-2023, 12:34 PM

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JFS 3

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Originally Posted by Tesla S

Has the crew composition been confirmed? Background? Experience? IOE?

Yes, it was confirmed by dispatch. That's likely to be all you hear about it until the NTSB is finished.

And stop with the IOE rumors, you're just embarrassing yourself.

08-16-2023, 01:24 PM

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WhisperJet

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Every Captain was a new Captain at some point.

08-17-2023, 04:23 AM

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Vito

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Originally Posted by EyeKantEven

Is this written in the MEL as a requirement or advisory? If not, maybe it should?

No, Without looking it up, it just says that speedbrakes should NOT be Armed prior to touchdown and to manually extend them after touchdown. The first time I manually extended them, due to their deferred status, I yanked them back quickly like the Captain’s did on every landing in the 727. As soon As I pulled them back, the nose rose up abruptly and the Jet seemed to feel lighter on the gear and skittish. After that incident, I extend them smoothly and slowly. Cuts down on the excitement level.😳

08-19-2023, 10:40 AM

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mrvmo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JFS 3

Yes, it was confirmed by dispatch. That's likely to be all you hear about it until the NTSB is finished.

And stop with the IOE rumors, you're just embarrassing yourself.

it’s beyond me how a major airline pilot would need, and be given that amount of OE.

08-19-2023, 12:46 PM

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Airhoss

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Originally Posted by mrvmo

it’s beyond me how a major airline pilot would need, and be given that amount of OE.

What amount of OE are you referring to?

08-19-2023, 01:47 PM

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hopp

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Originally Posted by EyeKantEven

Exactly.

She says pushed because of fear of a tail strike... BEFORE the bounce

What also doesn't make sense is she claims she pulled the boards AFTER TOUCHDOWN, and THEN the airplane bounced. Not plausible.

I know from the last one of these in EWR, where the hull was written off, the captain’s NTSB statement didn’t resemble in the slightest what the FO (new hire) told me in person before they got coached by safety and ALPA on their statement. This may explain the confusion and improbability of the actual physical result vs. the NTSB statement.

08-19-2023, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hopp

UAL has a big ass problem... as does DAL, AAL, SWA, Alaska, JB, Spirit. There are a lot of very low time pilots sitting in right and left seats right now.