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Old 08-07-2023, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by crjflyer0023
Lol, who said safety is compromised if a black dude examines another black dude, or a indian guy examines a woman?

are you a closeted sexist/racist? Not sure whats so wrong with this. what are you trying to say?
Safety is compromised if your first priority is for that event to occur for appearances sake. Which is what is happening. Lol
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Old 08-07-2023, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by flying172
I get where you coming from but that AA that had a runway incursion in JFK he wasn't one of the new guys and I'm sure there is more incidents with more senior guys over the years. I'm saying hold their hands or fly the plane for them I'm the training department can do that, and I'm with you some of the NH's might not worked hard to get to a legacy but that doesn't mean that everyone that has low time is incompetent. We can't just judge them because they didn't have 10,000 hours before they got hired, they might had to CFI and work on the side and that was the only job they can do to build time or they might had to work 2 or 3 jobs to pay for their flight training and we can't just discourage them of applying because they are not qualified, let them have a shot at the training and if they falloff in training then they can go back and build some experiences.
You cannot sell this to the general public. If they knew some of the types getting hired at the majors with their backgrounds they would be appalled and for good reason. We are talking about safety not optics. No one in 23F gives a sh1t about how great your life story is and what a great person you are. This is not a science experiment to see if this person or that person can make it through training. We can absolutely judge an applicant based on their flight time, training history, GPA, and work history. These are barriers to entry and they show a person's character and discipline which are 2 of the most important qualities airlines are looking for. Telling an applicant they are not ready and not competitive is not discouraging the good applicants. It just means you need to bring more to the table and the kinds of people UAL should want are willing to go do the work to be competitive, in normal times. The last several years the standards have been relaxed to the point that safety has been compromised to an extent.
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Old 08-07-2023, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by crjflyer0023
biggest load of crahp ive ever read. Checkride failures dont have the stigma they used to have 10+ years ago. check-ride failures are extremely common now days, and really, no one gives a crap about it anymore. Spirit hired a fresh 1500 cfi with 4 GA failures... jetblue constantly hires people right at this moment, with DUIs or 2+ 121 fails.

Take a look through ALL plane crashes that ever happened. The VAST majority was done by people who never failed a checkride. funny how that works huh?

"total time should be how you judge someone"

again, another big load of crahp. Someone can have 3000 PIC turbine and be a sh1ttyy pilot, and someone can be a 500 hour SIC FO and be a superior pilot. I cant count how many errors and mistakes I caught from crusty old captains. But hey! they must be good only because they have a lot of total time, right?
So if you are saying total time, checkride failures and DUI’s aren’t important for evaluating whether someone is a worthy candidate, how do you suggest pilot applicants be evaluated? Whether they show up to the interview or not?

I’m not even going to get into the other comments you‘ve made today.
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Old 08-07-2023, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
And exactly who the hell is she?? Obviously another internet publicity ho trying to promote a book and a website, but other than that……???
https://laurasavino747.com/
Medically retired UAL Captain.
"Laura is a Chairman for the Ninety-Nines International Organization of Women Pilots and Scholarship Chairman for the Mid-Atlantic Section, active member of ISA+21 (International Society of Women Airline Pilots), and of WAI (Women in Aviation Organization International), published aviation author and First Place winner in the Pennwriters Conference competition."
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Old 08-07-2023, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sirius
Don’t forget the 777 out of Hawaii that almost ended up in the drink last December.
well that was the captain flying and the captains fault.. the new hire FO called the upset.
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Old 08-07-2023, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by crjflyer0023
Thats a good thing, as it should be. That is the way to go, administrating non-bias checking events.

Thankfully its not an old white jealous b00merr who is racist and hates blacks/women/brown people. OR else they would be failing minorities left and right.

Aviation has no room for racism.
So as a black pilot myself I’ve never encountered anyone in my race that refers to older pilots we fly with as “white jealous boomers” that hates every race and gender. 99.9% guaranteed you’re some LGBTQ (to be continued) UA pilot that gets over emotional to anyone questioning your deep liberal beliefs. You hide behind race and gender issues with your pretend LGBTQ equality BS like you’re a victim. It’s just pathetic and I’ve never had any issues with LCA’s that are “white” in the flight deck, ever. Zero reason why they should ever require a DEI LCA to fly with a fellow “DEI” hire. That’s absolutely ridiculous, thanks for the laugh.
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Old 08-07-2023, 06:11 PM
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Plot twist, they were both doing the HR portion of the CQDL during the flare.
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Old 08-07-2023, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
So as a black pilot myself.
Sure you are, buddy, sure. You're totally not some loser racist trying to push an agenda. LOL. That's like when a racist says "I have black friends but..."
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Old 08-07-2023, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by crjflyer0023
Sure you are, buddy, sure. You're totally not some loser racist trying to push an agenda. LOL. That's like when a racist says "I have black friends but..."
Disregard you’re not even a United pilot. I was totally shocked to discover you’re at Mesa.. lol. Good luck with life buddy. Btw I’m sure all those check ride failures including a 121 bust you’ve been gloating about as “no big deal” have something to do with you just being a “victim of the system”.
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Old 08-07-2023, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by flying172
reading this thread is discouraging to anyone that wants to fly for UA because the amount of pilot that are so unhappy with the “unsafe” pilot that been hired because they didn’t have to work 20 years flying RJ making close to nothing. I don’t want to be a blunt but not everyone has to crop dust or fly freight in the middle of the night in freezing weather to get to a decent spot. If you see a new pilot that needs mentoring why don’t you just give them advice instead of making them feel bad for not having enough experience
I tend to stay out of these topics….let me try and say this as nice as I can.

I want to sit next to a pilot who has almost killed themselves a few times or has had someone try to kill them. You need to make bad decisions, learn from them and then move forward. You don’t need to be making first time rookie decisions that could kill you in a plane with 365 people.

the amount I learned from being a CFI, flying single pilot 135, Turbo props and RJs has made me the safe pilot I am today.

that 767 landing in IAH and 757 landing in EWR Im sure were picture perfect until the last 5 seconds. nota lot of time to mentor there…..experience matters.
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