JFS 3

You serious Clark? If you actually work here, you would know enough to not have any questions about the experience level of the PF for that leg. 🤡

Also you're two days late for putting on your clown shoes, some other JROTC cadet already made this mistake:

BlueScholar

This thread is embarrassing

CQKSNT

Agreed. It certainly reflects poorly on our profession.

Nucflash

And exactly who the hell is she?? Obviously another internet publicity ho trying to promote a book and a website, but other than that……???

flying172

reading this thread is discouraging to anyone that wants to fly for UA because the amount of pilot that are so unhappy with the “unsafe” pilot that been hired because they didn’t have to work 20 years flying RJ making close to nothing. I don’t want to be a blunt but not everyone has to crop dust or fly freight in the middle of the night in freezing weather to get to a decent spot. If you see a new pilot that needs mentoring why don’t you just give them advice instead of making them feel bad for not having enough experience

ugleeual

quality is definitively dropping… we just need to watch each others backs a little more than in the past.

Nordhavn

UAL is a premier employer and the IP's should not be holding (mentoring) your hand all the way through your first year of employment. It would be akin to showing up to any elite university and the professor's having to teach you algebra, or grammar, or any basic pre-requisite subject. Some of the recent NH's at all the majors are not there because they have earned it. They are there because management's need for pilots supersedes historical norms. Unfortunately, some of these bad apples are making it to the line and they have no business operating an airliner with their level of experience/competence.

Grumbletrousers

flying172

I get where you coming from but that AA that had a runway incursion in JFK he wasn't one of the new guys and I'm sure there is more incidents with more senior guys over the years. I'm saying hold their hands or fly the plane for them I'm the training department can do that, and I'm with you some of the NH's might not worked hard to get to a legacy but that doesn't mean that everyone that has low time is incompetent. We can't just judge them because they didn't have 10,000 hours before they got hired, they might had to CFI and work on the side and that was the only job they can do to build time or they might had to work 2 or 3 jobs to pay for their flight training and we can't just discourage them of applying because they are not qualified, let them have a shot at the training and if they falloff in training then they can go back and build some experiences.

DownSideUp

Here’s the issue.

United has had two hull losses (and almost a third) in the last 4 years. In each, inexperience was a key factor. Giving people a ‘shot at training’ is a miserable way to run a top-tier, professional airline.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, one of the major issues we’re having now is that we’re hiring folks with known training failures. Unfortunately, this will most likely lead to more incidents and potential hull loss.