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Old 08-03-2023, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JFS 3
Here's the only details you get: It wasn't OE. It wasn't an LCA.
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Old 08-03-2023, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
Ok, then what are the details since you’re all knowing?
None of your damn business, those are the details. You’ll know, what you need to know, if anything, when the powers that be decide when/what that is.
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Originally Posted by Grumble
None of your damn business, those are the details. You’ll know, what you need to know, if anything, when the powers that be decide when/what that is.
The details you want to look at our prior performance at other airlines. Maybe the majors will start to realize past performance will have a bearing on future performance.
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Old 08-04-2023, 06:33 AM
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Was there another hard landing at IAD?
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Old 08-04-2023, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Was there another hard landing at IAD?
Rumor is that was a mechanical. Haven't heard anything else.
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Originally Posted by cal73
Rumor is that was a mechanical. Haven't heard anything else.
Gear issue after takeoff with air return and landing on bad gear.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The details you want to look at our prior performance at other airlines. Maybe the majors will start to realize past performance will have a bearing on future performance.
Bingo, Bango, Bongo! If it takes you 100 hours to get through "FO IOE" and you were invited to leave from a previous carrier you probably shouldn't be doing the job. You got to feel sorry for the training group at all the Majors who are continually told "push em through". What do you do? File an ASAP I guess because management isn't going to do anything until they are front page news.
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Originally Posted by Nordhavn
Bingo, Bango, Bongo! If it takes you 100 hours to get through "FO IOE" and you were invited to leave from a previous carrier you probably shouldn't be doing the job. You got to feel sorry for the training group at all the Majors who are continually told "push em through". What do you do? File an ASAP I guess because management isn't going to do anything until they are front page news.
100 hours of OE is extreme and people should be let go before it ever gets to that point. Under normal circumstances, if the pilot is safe and just needs experience and mentoring, you give them that. If they are weak to the point where their flying ability, judgement, or situational awareness is below standards, you have them removed from the trip and let the training department deal with it. Personally, I’ve never had anyone who I considered unsafe, however there have been a few where their lack of experience was very evident.
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The blame for this 756 fleet hull loss, the last one (2019), and the 777 near miss of Maui can be squarely placed on UAL scheduling/ reserve rules- particularly global reserve/rolled days off that make being junior on WB fleets so unappealing that pilots on the line don’t want it, and it’s given to new hires. Often those new hires are the youngest and least experienced pilots at United.

First look at the AIP shows that Rolled days off/Global reserve rules are still present. It’s yet to be seen if any of the other reserve improvements will be enough to make widebody fleets desirable or if they’re still going to new hires. If things aren’t fixed, UAL is eventually going to kill a bunch of people. The FAA knows it, TK instructors know it, line pilots know it yet UAL management chooses to ignore it.
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
The blame for this 756 fleet hull loss, the last one (2019), and the 777 near miss of Maui can be squarely placed on UAL scheduling/ reserve rules- particularly global reserve/rolled days off that make being junior on WB fleets so unappealing that pilots on the line don’t want it, and it’s given to new hires. Often those new hires are the youngest and least experienced pilots at United.

First look at the AIP shows that Rolled days off/Global reserve rules are still present. It’s yet to be seen if any of the other reserve improvements will be enough to make widebody fleets desirable or if they’re still going to new hires. If things aren’t fixed, UAL is eventually going to kill a bunch of people. The FAA knows it, TK instructors know it, line pilots know it yet UAL management chooses to ignore it.
Queue the popcorn
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