Ua ops in need of overhaul??????
#41
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What does the “C” stand for in CEO, CFO, or COO? Those are basically the top 3 positions of every corporate structure. There can be 1000 VPs of XYZ. VP is a typical middle management title. CHIEF of XYZ is usually a bit more substantial. The point is….there isn’t enough focus on having a Chief “let’s not eff up the operation” in this company.
The title of chief is cultural appropriation.
#44
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Any info on any planned changes to tops in the UA next plan? It seems to me that if you add 100-150 more planes to the system as it is now ,it will be utter chaos.Too many unneccessary plane and fa swaps leads to many cancellations as soon as something goes wrong.It seems their strategy now is to cancel flights at the first sign of trouble,but one cancellation seems to lead to 3 or 4 because now you have crews and ac out of position,especially at outstations.Last week,we had 2 cancelled flights at outstations because one FA didnt show up. Its frustarting for the crews and more for the passengers.Everyone was focused on the contract and now that it seems to be worked out, are there any planned changes to ops,better gate agents ,etc to make things run smoother? Just seems like daily confusion on a regular basis.When i was at the regionals,it was a constant shiddd show almost daily.I didnt expect the same here,looks like i was wrong.Why dont the suits in Wilis Tower do some thing to fix some of this stuff?
And if you expected things to be better just because you went to some big shot airline with a famous name, well, as Rob Halford once famously sang, "You've got another thing coming."
#45
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We stopped short of the gate at EWR a few weeks ago, no Marshalers. Another plane stoped next to us waiting for the next gate over. No Marshalers.
I look around and saw about 12 people sitting on a pallet doing nothing (break time, I guess?). They just sat there chatting and looking at us like we were insane for about 7 more minutes. Then they finally got up and parked both planes.
I couldn’t help but think Tony Soprano was somehow involved.
I look around and saw about 12 people sitting on a pallet doing nothing (break time, I guess?). They just sat there chatting and looking at us like we were insane for about 7 more minutes. Then they finally got up and parked both planes.
I couldn’t help but think Tony Soprano was somehow involved.
#46
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Because it's more polite than saying "No fkcunig sh!t Sherlock. I wonder why we didnt think of that?". Maybe some of us tire of the lack of knowledge or understanding about what actually happened in the last 23 years.
#47
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Yes. The cots in ewr come out for bad days and they have been out for about a month straight. The wheels didn't just come off we decided to drive on the rim for the whole month of July. We ****ed off every single employee group with this drive to operate 430+ flights a day. The forced overtime of the rampers alone has lead to a mass exodus which slaps even harder when you post 1B+ profit. You have to respect and pay your people.
#48
^^^^this
It’s such a weird Stockholm syndrome response. The new guys aren’t saying their old place was better, they’re just pointing out how the new place can improve. Most of the people that have been here a long time have no idea the work rules the ULCCs and Regionals have now, how ours have lagged advanced in the industry, and how those could be adapted here for everyone’s benefit.
I’d rather have a slightly whiny newbie that wants and is willing to fight for a better contract than a slack jawed “wow I’m so happy to be here I’ll let the company do whatever they want with me, never complain, never file a PDR, always extend, and do nothing to fight for a better contract” company Stan.
It’s not “my old place was better” it’s “why don’t we try to adapt the few good things my previous ****hole employer had to make this place even better”.
It’s such a weird Stockholm syndrome response. The new guys aren’t saying their old place was better, they’re just pointing out how the new place can improve. Most of the people that have been here a long time have no idea the work rules the ULCCs and Regionals have now, how ours have lagged advanced in the industry, and how those could be adapted here for everyone’s benefit.
I’d rather have a slightly whiny newbie that wants and is willing to fight for a better contract than a slack jawed “wow I’m so happy to be here I’ll let the company do whatever they want with me, never complain, never file a PDR, always extend, and do nothing to fight for a better contract” company Stan.
It’s not “my old place was better” it’s “why don’t we try to adapt the few good things my previous ****hole employer had to make this place even better”.
#50
I came from JetBlue and was shocked at the Stockholm syndrome and the Captains attitudes with regard to industry lagging work rules. I love it. One guy I flew with didn’t lift a finger the whole trip, was reading the news while I was drowning trying to set up the plane on a 45 minute plane swap, and then files a negative probationary report because I was “complaining” about the bidding software. I guess I have the bad attitude. These “well why don’t you just leave” boomers live on a different planet, I swear. I’ve found that for a lot of these old guys, it’s their first airline as they come straight from the military.
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