UAL grapples with F/O's not upgrading to PIC
#71
You’re suggesting people aren’t upgrading because they’re loyal to Airbus? That’s a new one for me. There are many reasons for the CA vacancies but I doubt Boeing/Airbus preferences move the needle significantly.
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I thinks it’s less about loyalty vs having to sweat it out in a 73 for 4 legs a day. The Airbus was designed for crew comfort. Once you figure out your seat and armrest adjustments in relation to the sidestick it feel like your flying in luxury. Then add in the tray table for crew meals… it’s the little things that matter when you spend half the month flying around the country in said jet.
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Yeah, other than IAH 737 which has been crazy lately, the seniority dynamics at the junior end of the lists are about the same.
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I thinks it’s less about loyalty vs having to sweat it out in a 73 for 4 legs a day. The Airbus was designed for crew comfort. Once you figure out your seat and armrest adjustments in relation to the sidestick it feel like your flying in luxury. Then add in the tray table for crew meals… it’s the little things that matter when you spend half the month flying around the country in said jet.
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I thinks it’s less about loyalty vs having to sweat it out in a 73 for 4 legs a day. The Airbus was designed for crew comfort. Once you figure out your seat and armrest adjustments in relation to the sidestick it feel like your flying in luxury. Then add in the tray table for crew meals… it’s the little things that matter when you spend half the month flying around the country in said jet.
If you’re on the bus currently, you may be in the echo chamber of guys who’ve all selected it for the same reason. But I’ve known just as many guppy drivers who want nothing to do w/ Fifi & her flight control laws. (They’re both just airplanes to me, but whatever.) My point is, we could replace the guppy w/ the bus altogether, and if we don’t address RSV & lineholder QOL, credit protections, & pay disparity between senior FO/junior CA, people are going to continue passing on the left seat.
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I thinks it’s less about loyalty vs having to sweat it out in a 73 for 4 legs a day. The Airbus was designed for crew comfort. Once you figure out your seat and armrest adjustments in relation to the sidestick it feel like your flying in luxury. Then add in the tray table for crew meals… it’s the little things that matter when you spend half the month flying around the country in said jet.
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Your hiring department has spent the last year or so recruiting these ULCC zero to hero, low time, no turbine PIC with no college degree new hires AND now United management can’t fathom why Captain Vacancy’s are an issue?!
Delta and American recruitment are more than thrilled with your pilot hiring department leaving so many prospective pilot applicants in the pool that actually have the courage to take command of a passenger operated aircraft (and have the command time to prove it).
It will be a forever issue and huge negotiation leverage unless UA-ALPA folded like a cheap suit and allowed language on forced upgrades.
It’s almost classic that Scotty boy would go to the public complaining about an issue he created with his own incompetence, AGAIN. The guy is undefeated in destroying a pilot surplus, we should actually thank him. Scotty boy is correct, you can teach anyone to be a right seat pilot but the high upgrade washout rates at the regionals proved not everyone can be a Pilot in Command. It’s going to get very dicey for United’s safety record if forced upgrades become a reality.
Delta and American recruitment are more than thrilled with your pilot hiring department leaving so many prospective pilot applicants in the pool that actually have the courage to take command of a passenger operated aircraft (and have the command time to prove it).
It will be a forever issue and huge negotiation leverage unless UA-ALPA folded like a cheap suit and allowed language on forced upgrades.
It’s almost classic that Scotty boy would go to the public complaining about an issue he created with his own incompetence, AGAIN. The guy is undefeated in destroying a pilot surplus, we should actually thank him. Scotty boy is correct, you can teach anyone to be a right seat pilot but the high upgrade washout rates at the regionals proved not everyone can be a Pilot in Command. It’s going to get very dicey for United’s safety record if forced upgrades become a reality.
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Your hiring department has spent the last year or so recruiting these ULCC zero to hero, low time, no turbine PIC with no college degree new hires AND now United management can’t fathom why Captain Vacancy’s are an issue?!
Delta and American recruitment are more than thrilled with your pilot hiring department leaving so many prospective pilot applicants in the pool that actually have the courage to take command of a passenger operated aircraft (and have the command time to prove it).
It will be a forever issue unless UA-ALPA folded like a cheap suit and allowed language on forced upgrades.
Delta and American recruitment are more than thrilled with your pilot hiring department leaving so many prospective pilot applicants in the pool that actually have the courage to take command of a passenger operated aircraft (and have the command time to prove it).
It will be a forever issue unless UA-ALPA folded like a cheap suit and allowed language on forced upgrades.
DUDE, get a grip, take a breath, S T F U. All you do is lurk on other forums than your own and try to talk trash and dump on people and their airlines. I haven’t been on another forum for years, it’s all you do, pathetic. It’s clear to anyone with a brain that you are an insecure pus, have a tiny wiener and absolutely no self confidence, driving you to denigrate everyone else to prop yourself up.
Go away, peddle your inciteful nonsense elsewhere.
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