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07-17-2023, 03:03 AM

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DarkSideMoon

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Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher

yea they would . The precedent is already set with the 757s. A few only have one jumpseat but if there are two jumpseaters and no open seats, a paying pax would be bumped to accommodate the second jumpseater.

I think all the nose numbers that applied to have been retired but definitely agree on the precedent.

07-17-2023, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

okay I guess the Max must have more room in the cockpit than a regular 737.

I am going to guess you are young. The 737 has been available with 2 jumpseats since the first one rolled off the line. Not fun but available.

07-17-2023, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

First of all congratulations on the AIP.

Curious about the commuting policy on yalls new AIP. an excerpt from Page 46 reads;

“New aircraft from the manufacturer must have a second jumpseat installed, or a seat in the cabin will be reserved for a second United Pilot jumpseater”

Let’s say a brand new 737 comes online to United (737’s only have 1 jumpseat)

and in this scenario let’s say this flight is completely booked. Would United really kick a paying pax off to get a jumpseater on or am I missing something?

Yes they would. It was policy on our 757’s that only had one JS.

Jumpseaters are also included in the BEW of the jet so they can’t be refused for weight/performance restrictions.

07-17-2023, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumble

Yes they would. It was policy on our 757’s that only had one JS.

Jumpseaters are also included in the BEW of the jet so they can’t be refused for weight/performance restrictions.

no they are not included in the basic weight, this is a misconception. However mainline jumpseaters can’t be restricted for weight purposes. In other words if a jump seater shows up and the A/C has a weight restriction, weight will be removed in other areas either by taking off cargo or a pax.

If the jumpseater weight was already included, there would not be a weight increase when a jumpseater is added to the FWM

07-17-2023, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon

I think all the nose numbers that applied to have been retired

Correct; all the single-jumpseat 757s are gone.

07-17-2023, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher

kinda like when that doctor was dragged off?

And I know it was really republic

07-17-2023, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

I am going to guess you are young. The 737 has been available with 2 jumpseats since the first one rolled off the line. Not fun but available.

Most of United’s 737s on properly only have a single jumpseat.

07-17-2023, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent62

Lot not sure if you're joking or serious brother, but this is a unintentionally hilarious post if you are indeed serious.

I would rather stand in the bathroom the whole flight than sit on the second jumpseat.

if you’re missing a left arm and both legs, it *might* be comfortable.

07-17-2023, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dingdong

I would rather stand in the bathroom the whole flight than sit on the second jumpseat.

if you’re missing a left arm and both legs, it *might* be comfortable.

I used to ride the second jumpseat a lot on SW 737-200’s back when I commuted in the 1990’s.

its not about comfort. A ride in the second jumpseat is way better then getting left behind.

07-17-2023, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by C11DCA

I used to ride the second jumpseat a lot on SW 737-200’s back when I commuted in the 1990’s.

its not about comfort. A ride in the second jumpseat is way better then getting left behind.

Depends. I've chosen to not ride the 2nd jumpseat on a transcon and wait for the next flight (non-commuting).