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#11
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 478
I think mine is shared but I haven’t checked lately, either way why is that a thing to ding someone about? I don’t think I’ve ever checked another pilots schedule a single time.
#12
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 133
Allow me to retort. Any pilots wanting to pick up a trip and not have it public business is well within his or her right to do so. You only want it to be public so you can gripe and moan about how it’s not fair and how younger pilots have no respect for their elders. Hell, you probably then email people who make trades you don’t like and lecture them. If I want a trip, I’m putting in for it, without regard for your sensibilities.
#13
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Joined APC: Feb 2022
Position: 73FO
Posts: 356
The way it has been explained to me is people wait until the last day because they want a better idea of what the seniority will look like, and are concerned that if they bid X and then the seniority isn’t what they wanted, they might not be able to or remember to cancel the bid. I think it’s more likely they are just indecisive and decide to jump in before the clock hits midnight.
#14
Allow me to retort. Any pilots wanting to pick up a trip and not have it public business is well within his or her right to do so. You only want it to be public so you can gripe and moan about how it’s not fair and how younger pilots have no respect for their elders. Hell, you probably then email people who make trades you don’t like and lecture them. If I want a trip, I’m putting in for it, without regard for your sensibilities.
#15
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Joined APC: Aug 2021
Posts: 713
The way it has been explained to me is people wait until the last day because they want a better idea of what the seniority will look like, and are concerned that if they bid X and then the seniority isn’t what they wanted, they might not be able to or remember to cancel the bid. I think it’s more likely they are just indecisive and decide to jump in before the clock hits midnight.
Then you can put it in with a % qualifier.
#18
In observing the pickup behaviors of other pilots, I also noticed how I could pick up good deal trips with DHs to/from where I live in the real time pickup window. These were the sorts of trips that other local pilots, especially senior ones, would jump on the same as me. Considering that no one held my hand to teach me trip trading in my early years, I can't say I feel the need to advertise to those who hosed me for years what I've since learned how to do. None of my pickups or trades were remotely "nefarious". Meanwhile, I've been contacted more than once by pilots who innocently ask if I want to trade away the trip I'm quietly sitting on with no trades submitted whatsoever... but that happen to be with an LCA CA. What a personal foul. Those guys get put on my Wagon List (as in, if I get the chance I'd like to fix their wagons). These days I explain trip trading to a very steady stream of new hires, I figure it gives them a massive head start over what I began with and will protect them from being taken advantage of.
That all said, I'd just as soon have the ability to select whether to hide individual pickups/trades rather than a blanket selection. I'd prefer that my trip trades be visible at least, really as a form of advertising. And in fact, I've helped guys who leave their trades visible by picking up the open trip they want and then trading with them. I'm on the 777 now, and don't bother hiding my pickups/trades. Why? Because there are no DHs to/from where I live and it is a far less dynamic environment for pickups. If I bite the bullet and go NB CA after a new contract, I'll probably go back to cloaking mode just for my pickups. My calendar in CCS and Crew Companion is always visible.
#19
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 117
No need to ask, I'll tell you why I used to hide NB pickups. When it comes to trip trading I am 99% self taught, and for years I missed out on good deals because I simply didn't know how the system worked and I didn't have any friends/relatives looking out for me. I remember one day sitting in my crashpad as a LH during a weather event after 4+ years on property, ready to go and hoping to pick up my first ever 100% PPU trip. I was dumbfounded as four trips came open and marched up to 75% PPU... and then never came open at 100% for me to grab. And yet, when I checked they had all been awarded at 100% (and guys junior to me got some of them too). And of course many of their pickups were hidden to boot. Tough lesson, but I soon figured out how to put in pickups in advance so that I'd get a fair shot commensurate with my seniority (I'm sure you can too if you put in the time or asked the right person).
In observing the pickup behaviors of other pilots, I also noticed how I could pick up good deal trips with DHs to/from where I live in the real time pickup window. These were the sorts of trips that other local pilots, especially senior ones, would jump on the same as me. Considering that no one held my hand to teach me trip trading in my early years, I can't say I feel the need to advertise to those who hosed me for years what I've since learned how to do. None of my pickups or trades were remotely "nefarious". Meanwhile, I've been contacted more than once by pilots who innocently ask if I want to trade away the trip I'm quietly sitting on with no trades submitted whatsoever... but that happen to be with an LCA CA. What a personal foul. Those guys get put on my Wagon List (as in, if I get the chance I'd like to fix their wagons). These days I explain trip trading to a very steady stream of new hires, I figure it gives them a massive head start over what I began with and will protect them from being taken advantage of.
That all said, I'd just as soon have the ability to select whether to hide individual pickups/trades rather than a blanket selection. I'd prefer that my trip trades be visible at least, really as a form of advertising. And in fact, I've helped guys who leave their trades visible by picking up the open trip they want and then trading with them. I'm on the 777 now, and don't bother hiding my pickups/trades. Why? Because there are no DHs to/from where I live and it is a far less dynamic environment for pickups. If I bite the bullet and go NB CA after a new contract, I'll probably go back to cloaking mode just for my pickups. My calendar in CCS and Crew Companion is always visible.
In observing the pickup behaviors of other pilots, I also noticed how I could pick up good deal trips with DHs to/from where I live in the real time pickup window. These were the sorts of trips that other local pilots, especially senior ones, would jump on the same as me. Considering that no one held my hand to teach me trip trading in my early years, I can't say I feel the need to advertise to those who hosed me for years what I've since learned how to do. None of my pickups or trades were remotely "nefarious". Meanwhile, I've been contacted more than once by pilots who innocently ask if I want to trade away the trip I'm quietly sitting on with no trades submitted whatsoever... but that happen to be with an LCA CA. What a personal foul. Those guys get put on my Wagon List (as in, if I get the chance I'd like to fix their wagons). These days I explain trip trading to a very steady stream of new hires, I figure it gives them a massive head start over what I began with and will protect them from being taken advantage of.
That all said, I'd just as soon have the ability to select whether to hide individual pickups/trades rather than a blanket selection. I'd prefer that my trip trades be visible at least, really as a form of advertising. And in fact, I've helped guys who leave their trades visible by picking up the open trip they want and then trading with them. I'm on the 777 now, and don't bother hiding my pickups/trades. Why? Because there are no DHs to/from where I live and it is a far less dynamic environment for pickups. If I bite the bullet and go NB CA after a new contract, I'll probably go back to cloaking mode just for my pickups. My calendar in CCS and Crew Companion is always visible.
The good old "people were mean to me so I'm going to be mean to everybody else" argument. Classic. I love flying with those guys.
#20
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Joined APC: Aug 2005
Position: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.
Posts: 471
Meanwhile, I've been contacted more than once by pilots who innocently ask if I want to trade away the trip I'm quietly sitting on with no trades submitted whatsoever... but that happen to be with an LCA CA. What a personal foul. Those guys get put on my Wagon List (as in, if I get the chance I'd like to fix their wagons).
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