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Old 07-06-2023, 08:31 PM
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The only way I'd be on board is X amount of free positive space tickets anywhere you want domestically per year, transferable to anyone for any reason. I can accept flying my family somewhere for free while a commuter burns all their tickets just getting to work. That is equitable.
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Old 07-06-2023, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rekatron
The only way I'd be on board is X amount of free positive space tickets anywhere you want domestically per year, transferable to anyone for any reason. I can accept flying my family somewhere for free while a commuter burns all their tickets just getting to work. That is equitable.
Absolutely. I’ve been saying this for awhile. Another option is a miles drop on 1 January each year for every pilot. Use them as needed for whatever you want, or hoard them for a blowout vacation.
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Old 07-06-2023, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rekatron
The only way I'd be on board is X amount of free positive space tickets anywhere you want domestically per year, transferable to anyone for any reason. I can accept flying my family somewhere for free while a commuter burns all their tickets just getting to work. That is equitable.
Another excellent, creative, equitable solution.
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Old 07-07-2023, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rekatron
The only way I'd be on board is X amount of free positive space tickets anywhere you want domestically per year, transferable to anyone for any reason. I can accept flying my family somewhere for free while a commuter burns all their tickets just getting to work. That is equitable.
my idea was 4 or 5 tickets per month, with 2 that roll over. So you can have up to 6/7 at a time (or whatever numbers). Use them to get to work, from work, or…..do whatever if you live in base.
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Old 07-07-2023, 05:25 AM
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We went from "when" to "commuting is a choice" in 6 pages....
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Old 07-07-2023, 05:30 AM
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Flights are full with revenue passengers. For the company to give up significant revenue to provide positive space commuting or a number of positive space passes for all would require large concessions in other areas of the contract from our side of the table. I decided long ago that the cost and hassle of commuting was better than being unhappy living near any airline hub. The company won’t, and the pilot group shouldn’t finance my decision to live outside of a base. Sometimes it’s easy, other times I buy tickets or take a pay hit with the commuter policy, but that is the price for my decision to commute. The company will never pay for that decision, and I’ll never ask the pilot group to either.
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Old 07-07-2023, 05:56 AM
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We went from "when" to "commuting is a choice" in 6 pages....
Since we already know the answer to “when” is “nobody knows”, starting a thread with that question is sort of like saying, “So what do you guys want to talk about?”
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Old 07-07-2023, 06:26 AM
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Positive space commuting is a terrible idea. And it in no way benefits people who live in base. An incredibly small percent of pilots live in a base and commute to another, unless they are extremely junior and don’t have an option. Fighting for PS commuting takes money out of other parts of the contract. Incredibly selfish.
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Old 07-07-2023, 06:46 AM
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Positive space commuting is a terrible idea. And it in no way benefits people who live in base. An incredibly small percent of pilots live in a base and commute to another, unless they are extremely junior and don’t have an option. Fighting for PS commuting takes money out of other parts of the contract. Incredibly selfish.
Im honestly ok not getting PS, but it sure would be nice if the UA discount tickets were actually less expensive than some other airline full price tickets.
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Originally Posted by sdj1986
Positive space commuting is a terrible idea. And it in no way benefits people who live in base. An incredibly small percent of pilots live in a base and commute to another, unless they are extremely junior and don’t have an option. Fighting for PS commuting takes money out of other parts of the contract. Incredibly selfish.
That’s how everything is… lineholder vs reserve, PI vs LCP vs line pilot.


But you can lower your blood pressure, it’s not being negotiated. Personally, give me one flight requirement and I’d be much happier than having PS.
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