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Old 07-01-2023, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dmeg13021
It’s the biggest market in the world. I doubt there will be shrinkage.
There will be no shrinkage.

This isn’t the first time a complete meltdown happened at EWR, and it will likely happen several more times this summer.
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Old 07-01-2023, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dmeg13021
It’s the biggest market in the world. I doubt there will be shrinkage.
there is a difference between EWR departures and crews based in EWR

the number of EWR will remain the same. But I suspect that they continue to get CA wherever they can and that may result in a shrinking pilot domicile
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Old 07-01-2023, 06:22 PM
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UA should just open a MEM hub. Plenty of gate space, 4 runways, good mid-south location that fills in a huge gap in their network, low labor cost, low cost of living, no income tax, better weather than EWR (most of the time) similar crime rate to Chicago.

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Old 07-01-2023, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ATISInformation
This will likely accelerate the shift to significantly increase ops at MCO (and maybe TPA). There's no reason to continue to rely on a base that is so predictably substandard in both the Summer and Winter months. You still get a strong East Coast hub (in addition to IAD), weather (especially winter weather) is very comparable to ATL and MIA, and you don't have to deal with the deteriorating political situation in the NY/NJ corridor (which, by the way, is why fewer and fewer pilots/ATCers want to live there).

UAL has been at a huge disadvantage in not having a southeastern hub between IAD and IAH. Now they will.

EWR seems primed to expand the number of slots for UAL (https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/new...ys/ar-AA1djiUk), but I would be surprised if the damage hasn't been done and you don't see a massive shift to MCO starting 12-24 months from now.
You don’t work in network planning. THANK GAWD…
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Old 07-02-2023, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
UA should just open a MEM hub. Plenty of gate space, 4 runways, good mid-south location that fills in a huge gap in their network, low labor cost, low cost of living, no income tax, better weather than EWR (most of the time) similar crime rate to Chicago.


gee. I wonder where you live…
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Old 07-02-2023, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LJ Driver
There will be no shrinkage.

This isn’t the first time a complete meltdown happened at EWR, and it will likely happen several more times this summer.
It’s already been shrinking for about a year now (in terms of pilots, not operation)
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Old 07-02-2023, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ATISInformation
This will likely accelerate the shift to significantly increase ops at MCO (and maybe TPA). There's no reason to continue to rely on a base that is so predictably substandard in both the Summer and Winter months. You still get a strong East Coast hub (in addition to IAD), weather (especially winter weather) is very comparable to ATL and MIA, and you don't have to deal with the deteriorating political situation in the NY/NJ corridor (which, by the way, is why fewer and fewer pilots/ATCers want to live there).

UAL has been at a huge disadvantage in not having a southeastern hub between IAD and IAH. Now they will.

EWR seems primed to expand the number of slots for UAL (https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/new...ys/ar-AA1djiUk), but I would be surprised if the damage hasn't been done and you don't see a massive shift to MCO starting 12-24 months from now.
not sure if you know this already, but MCO is not and has no plans to be a hub. Just a pilot base. Very different
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Old 07-02-2023, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
It’s already been shrinking for about a year now (in terms of pilots, not operation)
That’s probably part of the problem here, too many people out of position.
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Old 07-02-2023, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
UA should just open a MEM hub. Plenty of gate space, 4 runways, good mid-south location that fills in a huge gap in their network, low labor cost, low cost of living, no income tax, better weather than EWR (most of the time) similar crime rate to Chicago.

Between the crime, tornadoes, and earthquake potential, MEM is not a safe place to live.
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Originally Posted by LJ Driver
That’s probably part of the problem here, too many people out of position.
That’d be my guess.
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