4th of July meltdown weekend.
#21
A handful of posters here need to stop insinuating that this has anything to do with the pilot group and/or the contract struggle. This meltdown has nothing to do with pilots or the contract.
If anyone wants to spitefully celebrate how the company we work for is royally screwing hundreds of thousands of pax perhaps that could be done in private.
If anyone wants to spitefully celebrate how the company we work for is royally screwing hundreds of thousands of pax perhaps that could be done in private.
#22
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No, he doesn't get it. The UALALPA MEC/NC negotiated the Tumi TA, voted on it, passed it, and told United pilots to ratify it. The company was happy to give the pilots that POS. Laying the blame for the delay in getting an ILC only with the company is absurd. Maybe if the pilots wore orange belts, ties, shoelaces and head bands that would do the trick.
Good luck.
- Octa
Good luck.
- Octa
#23
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If this is true...wow! The other pictures with that link are sad. These CEOs are disgusting.
If this is true...wow! The other pictures with that link are sad. These CEOs are disgusting.
#24
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 66
The meltdown is impacting minorities and people of color disproportionately. Our DEI department must address the climate emergency and clear all the smoky air in the North East. Reparations to include free first class travel should be considered, it’s the good thing to do and good leads the way.
#25
No, he doesn't get it. The UALALPA MEC/NC negotiated the Tumi TA, voted on it, passed it, and told United pilots to ratify it. The company was happy to give the pilots that POS. Laying the blame for the delay in getting an ILC only with the company is absurd. Maybe if the pilots wore orange belts, ties, shoelaces and head bands that would do the trick.
Good luck.
- Octa
Good luck.
- Octa
#26
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Posts: 5,266
Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon;[url=tel:3657867
3657867]Seems like success doesn’t get us much either, considering we were first to bail out the company during covid, gave them an unbelievable head start for the recovery, and we were rewarded with it by getting a contract dead last at earliest and a unilateral violation of our covid LOA.
If you wanna blame someone, blame TI and the toddlers. They’re the ones that gave it all away at your expense.
Been watching all of this from the sidelines and it looks like a total ATC FUBAR that disproportionately effects EWR. They get a couple of storms rolling around the area suddenly the arrival and departure rates are slashed because controllers can’t control anymore. They lose one or two SID/STAR corridors and suddenly they can’t control manually. Ever been in and out of ORD during wx like this? Zero change. There has to be a tornado on top of the field for them to start panicking. There’s one SID and the controllers take it from there. Best in the business, and no I don’t live or work in ORD just calling it like I see it.
Last edited by Grumble; 06-29-2023 at 02:40 PM.
#27
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I was there when they started groundstopping for minor weather. Kirby isn’t playing an honest game but the guy isnt kidding that this kerfluckle is, in near totality, a failure of ATC.
Did I really see a picture of him (Scott Kirby) taking a charter flight!! Lolololol. That guy is leading at the front of the stick that holds the tip of the spear. He’s got your back 180 degrees.
When in doubt, just ask yourself, WWSKD?
ALPA, this needs to be a bracelet, a tag or something.
Did I really see a picture of him (Scott Kirby) taking a charter flight!! Lolololol. That guy is leading at the front of the stick that holds the tip of the spear. He’s got your back 180 degrees.
When in doubt, just ask yourself, WWSKD?
ALPA, this needs to be a bracelet, a tag or something.
#28
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Posts: 228
United really had no chance at all of completing their summer schedule. EWR is a dumpster fire of a hub and has very little chance of success. UAL's fleet is really old (over 50% of the airplanes are over 20 years old) and the management/scheduling system is simply not designed for this amount of flying.
It is fun that you are all blaming this on ATC, but the truth is that your management screwed up badly by trying to fly such an aggressive schedule. UAL is getting hammered in what should be the most profitable few weeks in the history of aviation. This disaster is 100% Kirby's fault. There is no way it was ever going to be successful. A good leader would have set a summer schedule that was manageable.
It is fun that you are all blaming this on ATC, but the truth is that your management screwed up badly by trying to fly such an aggressive schedule. UAL is getting hammered in what should be the most profitable few weeks in the history of aviation. This disaster is 100% Kirby's fault. There is no way it was ever going to be successful. A good leader would have set a summer schedule that was manageable.
#29
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So far today, United has had their best operational day in a week with only 440 cancellations.
Meanwhile, here are the cancellations for the rest of the US:
United, 440
Southwest, 22
JetBlue, 22
Delta, 6
American, 0
United has pretty much cancelled more flights today than just about every other airline in the world combined. And today is the best day in a week.
Everyone knows that United is trying to the the biggest airline, but it is obvious it is far from achieving this goal.
Meanwhile, here are the cancellations for the rest of the US:
United, 440
Southwest, 22
JetBlue, 22
Delta, 6
American, 0
United has pretty much cancelled more flights today than just about every other airline in the world combined. And today is the best day in a week.
Everyone knows that United is trying to the the biggest airline, but it is obvious it is far from achieving this goal.
#30
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Posts: 357
Ever been in and out of ORD during wx like this? Zero change. There has to be a tornado on top of the field for them to start panicking. There’s one SID and the controllers take it from there. Best in the business, and no I don’t live or work in ORD just calling it like I see it.
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