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Old 06-16-2023, 08:28 AM
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There’s close to 16,000 active pilots at United right now — how many total pilots will United need to fully staff their growth plans for United Next? How many net add’l jets on property?

Between new MAXs, NEOs (+XLR variants), and 787 orders, there’s obviously fleet replacements included in the orders, but with all this projected growth and aggressive business maneuvers, it’s beyond comprehension that SK & Co. aren’t also using that big flight deck energy in putting out an industry leading contract.
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Someone please correct me or add more details, but *I believe* we’re netting just over 200 narrowbody frames. Someone smarter than me can input how many pilots per NB aircraft we have now and then extrapolate that for staffing. I’ve heard wild things out of TK about 20k-25k pilots on property, who knows. If United executes all the 787 book options, that’ll add even more staffing requirements.

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Originally Posted by yellowNEO
There’s close to 16,000 active pilots at United right now — how many total pilots will United need to fully staff their growth plans for United Next? How many net add’l jets on property?

Between new MAXs, NEOs (+XLR variants), and 787 orders, there’s obviously fleet replacements included in the orders, but with all this projected growth and aggressive business maneuvers, it’s beyond comprehension that SK & Co. aren’t also using that big flight deck energy in putting out an industry leading contract.


Currently 902 aircraft and after replacements etc

1100 mainline aircraft by 2026
and 20000 pilots

the last number was floating around

Contract first United next and the CEO knows that
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Originally Posted by yellowNEO
how many total pilots will United need to fully staff their growth plans for United Next? How many net add’l jets on property?
considering every day so far this month on the pool display for my base has been -40 or more (I see -68 today) for coverage, I’m guessing we still have a lot more hiring to do. Because this thing with every day being incredibly red is getting old.

0 open trips but still 68 reserves short? C’mon already.
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considering every day so far this month on the pool display for my base has been -40 or more (I see -68 today) for coverage, I’m guessing we still have a lot more hiring to do. Because this thing with every day being incredibly red is getting old.

0 open trips but still 68 reserves short? C’mon already.
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there’s not even any of that!
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there’s not even any of that!
Wrong. Plenty today ORD 756
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Originally Posted by yellowNEO
There’s close to 16,000 active pilots at United right now — how many total pilots will United need to fully staff their growth plans for United Next? How many net add’l jets on property?

Between new MAXs, NEOs (+XLR variants), and 787 orders, there’s obviously fleet replacements included in the orders, but with all this projected growth and aggressive business maneuvers, it’s beyond comprehension that SK & Co. aren’t also using that big flight deck energy in putting out an industry leading contract.
I made a few projection / seniority graphs based on growth for my seniority. I have 2 others based in being hired in April 2024 & 2025. Basically 1 year delay is 6-10% seniority loss per year. My guess is 20-25k pilots.
I’m a NH and only a partial nerd. If someone sees an error with my math they are welcome to Lmk.
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Originally Posted by Jaded N Cynical
Wrong. Plenty today ORD 756
nearly none on the NB FO side, which is what I was referencing (don’t keep an eye much on WB, though maybe I should!)
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Say no to drugs
say NO to 67

Drop a note to your senators NOW
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