(Contract First) United Next Growth Plans
06-17-2023, 10:50 AM
#23
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Position: 737 CA
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06-17-2023, 01:00 PM
#24
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Position: 747 Captain (Ret,)
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06-17-2023, 04:32 PM
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Position: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.
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06-17-2023, 05:25 PM
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Position: 737 CA
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want a contract sooner? then the MEC needs to get it done now. holding out for a moon shot contract that is never going to happen is not a good strategy. until then, you can expect every PP trip to be covered, and every WB CA, LCP and I/E position to be filled. PP will get UAL through the summer flying season despite the NB CA shortfalls.
Last edited by yesto67; 06-17-2023 at 05:48 PM.
06-17-2023, 05:44 PM
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Currently, it seems DL and UA both have ~16,000 pilots.
While retirements in the 5 - 25 year outlook favor UA, and a UA pilot would have a ~ 6% peak company seniority advantage over a DL pilot, it seems that the real difference would be if UA grew to 20-25,000 pilots as has been suggested.
What factors make it more or less likely for UA to grow to 20-25,000 pilots while DL could not or would not do the same?
*Source is WidgetSeniority.com "FUTURE SENIORITY IF YOU ARE HIRED TODAY" graph with updated numbers from UA 06/23 seniority list.
While retirements in the 5 - 25 year outlook favor UA, and a UA pilot would have a ~ 6% peak company seniority advantage over a DL pilot, it seems that the real difference would be if UA grew to 20-25,000 pilots as has been suggested.
What factors make it more or less likely for UA to grow to 20-25,000 pilots while DL could not or would not do the same?
*Source is WidgetSeniority.com "FUTURE SENIORITY IF YOU ARE HIRED TODAY" graph with updated numbers from UA 06/23 seniority list.
06-17-2023, 06:47 PM
#29
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06-17-2023, 06:51 PM
#30
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Currently, it seems DL and UA both have ~16,000 pilots.
While retirements in the 5 - 25 year outlook favor UA, and a UA pilot would have a ~ 6% peak company seniority advantage over a DL pilot, it seems that the real difference would be if UA grew to 20-25,000 pilots as has been suggested.
What factors make it more or less likely for UA to grow to 20-25,000 pilots while DL could not or would not do the same?
*Source is WidgetSeniority.com "FUTURE SENIORITY IF YOU ARE HIRED TODAY" graph with updated numbers from UA 06/23 seniority list.
While retirements in the 5 - 25 year outlook favor UA, and a UA pilot would have a ~ 6% peak company seniority advantage over a DL pilot, it seems that the real difference would be if UA grew to 20-25,000 pilots as has been suggested.
What factors make it more or less likely for UA to grow to 20-25,000 pilots while DL could not or would not do the same?
*Source is WidgetSeniority.com "FUTURE SENIORITY IF YOU ARE HIRED TODAY" graph with updated numbers from UA 06/23 seniority list.
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