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Old 06-05-2023, 12:37 PM
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https://www.linkedin.com/posts/aero-...135219712-hQfq

Well, what we all suspected would happen is now happening in real time. With far better work rules, pay and general treatment of their pilots, DAL is now hiring 2x we are weekly.

Hopefully Kirby and friends see this and realize United Next is a fart in the wind unless they actually take a new pilot contract seriously.
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Old 06-05-2023, 12:40 PM
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Did you even do research before posting this? Delta has biweekly classes compared to UA weekly classes.
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Originally Posted by khergan
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/aero-...135219712-hQfq

Well, what we all suspected would happen is now happening in real time. With far better work rules, pay and general treatment of their pilots, DAL is now hiring 2x we are weekly.

Hopefully Kirby and friends see this and realize United Next is a fart in the wind unless they actually take a new pilot contract seriously.
Delta’s classes are now biweekly so there is really no difference in total numbers.
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Old 06-05-2023, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by khergan
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/aero-...135219712-hQfq

Well, what we all suspected would happen is now happening in real time. With far better work rules, pay and general treatment of their pilots, DAL is now hiring 2x we are weekly.

Hopefully Kirby and friends see this and realize United Next is a fart in the wind unless they actually take a new pilot contract seriously.
Who cares, really?
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Originally Posted by khergan
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/aero-...135219712-hQfq

Well, what we all suspected would happen is now happening in real time. With far better work rules, pay and general treatment of their pilots, DAL is now hiring 2x we are weekly.

Hopefully Kirby and friends see this and realize United Next is a fart in the wind unless they actually take a new pilot contract seriously.
so are United’s classes going unfilled? Or is United simply pulling the numbers down due to aircraft delays?

unless you can prove United isn’t getting pilots to show up to class then you have no story. But nice try.
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Originally Posted by OldAndGrumpy
Did you even do research before posting this? Delta has biweekly classes compared to UA weekly classes.
NOPE lol, He just took the press release at face value. Because headlines are all that matter!
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The sky is falling…
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Old 06-06-2023, 06:42 AM
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Last I heard both Delta and United are hiring regional FOs with about 750 hours of 121 time. A year ago, you needed to be a check pilot to even be considered for a call. The minimums are dropping for a reason and it's likely that in the not-too-distant future there'll be unfilled seats in classes for both United and Delta. It takes years to grow a pilot from zero to hero, with the biggest hurdle being the 1,500 hours, and I really don't think there are enough CFI and banner towing jobs out there at unaffiliated small-time commercial operators to feed the demand at the majors. Regionals have been struggling to attract talent for years and I'm beginning to see the same things in motion at the majors. It hits fast.
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Last I heard both Delta and United are hiring regional FOs with about 750 hours of 121 time. A year ago, you needed to be a check pilot to even be considered for a call.
Ehhhh, not quite. Before the pandemic, sure.

But not really since.
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Originally Posted by Duffman
Last I heard both Delta and United are hiring regional FOs with about 750 hours of 121 time. A year ago, you needed to be a check pilot to even be considered for a call. The minimums are dropping for a reason and it's likely that in the not-too-distant future there'll be unfilled seats in classes for both United and Delta. It takes years to grow a pilot from zero to hero, with the biggest hurdle being the 1,500 hours, and I really don't think there are enough CFI and banner towing jobs out there at unaffiliated small-time commercial operators to feed the demand at the majors. Regionals have been struggling to attract talent for years and I'm beginning to see the same things in motion at the majors. It hits fast.
UAL new hire classes are already about 20% smaller than they were last year. They started getting more no shows once the TUMI Turd details were announced and quietly pulled down class size numbers to obfuscate that. Once the Delta TA came out and there was a 16 week wait to get into class at DAL, many more people left after BI. Delta recently pushed to drop their wait down to 4-6 weeks from CJO so UAL will see another cycle of applicants turning down their CJOs before class starts.
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