200 CA Vacancies in 23-10V
06-19-2023, 11:57 AM
#61
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Agree, let’s move on; but when people misrepresent the truth, someone needs to speak up otherwise those lies can quickly become “truth”.
Disagree that the marriage was in the making over a decade particularly if you’re trying to make the hollow and debunked argument that LUAL parked airplanes and furloughed pilots “for the merger”.
Disagree that the marriage was in the making over a decade particularly if you’re trying to make the hollow and debunked argument that LUAL parked airplanes and furloughed pilots “for the merger”.
06-19-2023, 12:27 PM
#62
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Position: B767/757 Capt
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Ok, TEN plus years later and you’re still talking about this…so let’s talk about it.
LUAL UNEMPLOYED pilots were given a WINDFALL with the SLI. Never had furloughed pilots been placed ahead of active, never furloughed pilots until the CAL/UAL merger. Many LCAL pilots had HUNDREDS of UNEMPLOYED pilots placed above them over night. People who were UNEMPLOYED became line holding pilots overnight at the expense of never furloughed LCAL pilots. LUAL UNEMPLOYED pilots had ALL of their longevity counted while the bottom 1/3 of the CAL list did NOT.
LUAL ALPA actually did a FANTASTIC job. Brucia rightly went into hiding after the award because he should be ashamed of himself.
To say that a pilot who was unemployed had any right to be placed above a pilot that was currently employed was and is the height of arrogance.
LUAL UNEMPLOYED pilots were given a WINDFALL with the SLI. Never had furloughed pilots been placed ahead of active, never furloughed pilots until the CAL/UAL merger. Many LCAL pilots had HUNDREDS of UNEMPLOYED pilots placed above them over night. People who were UNEMPLOYED became line holding pilots overnight at the expense of never furloughed LCAL pilots. LUAL UNEMPLOYED pilots had ALL of their longevity counted while the bottom 1/3 of the CAL list did NOT.
LUAL ALPA actually did a FANTASTIC job. Brucia rightly went into hiding after the award because he should be ashamed of himself.
To say that a pilot who was unemployed had any right to be placed above a pilot that was currently employed was and is the height of arrogance.
Actually you are incorrect ......
Colgan/Mesaba/Pinnacle merger was the first ALPA merged list that had furloughed pilots merged in with active pilots. Guys get so worked up about this but really do not have all the facts!
LET IT GO MAN!
06-19-2023, 04:15 PM
#65
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Hard to tell, obviously United Next needs lots of captains, but how many are truly needed over the next 6-9 months?
06-19-2023, 04:26 PM
#66
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With the increase in retirement age becoming a real possibility, hiring could slow down to account for delayed attrition. A new contract could also encourage more senior pilots to upgrade. Both could mean longer reserve times for junior captains. We’ll see what happens when they cast the net again soon. Personally, considering the risk of extended reserve times, I wouldn’t want to bid a reserve seat unless I knew the rules going forward.
06-20-2023, 06:45 AM
#68
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Imho the reserve SL use right now is primarily due to people being overworked with a poor QOL.
06-20-2023, 09:22 AM
#70
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The good news is that if vacancies continue to go unfilled, it won’t get any better when the deliveries start rolling in. So you have that going for you, which is nice.
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