Are we closer than we think?
#111
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a-yup. Super red every single day. 40 reserves, maybe 1-2 open pairings, but somehow that day is -42 for coverage. It’s insane.
#112
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Any comments on latest update?
It appears that of our 60 open items the company has counter offered or come to agreement on 36 things, with another undisclosed number of items last week. This feels like a little progress, and I know it’s not really the heavy things yet but those won’t be chipped away until the easy ones are mostly done.
It appears that of our 60 open items the company has counter offered or come to agreement on 36 things, with another undisclosed number of items last week. This feels like a little progress, and I know it’s not really the heavy things yet but those won’t be chipped away until the easy ones are mostly done.
#113
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Then, I guess vote no. G-line constraints and restrictions on min-levels are not being negotiated other than what already exists in the current book.
#114
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Any comments on latest update?
It appears that of our 60 open items the company has counter offered or come to agreement on 36 things, with another undisclosed number of items last week. This feels like a little progress, and I know it’s not really the heavy things yet but those won’t be chipped away until the easy ones are mostly done.
It appears that of our 60 open items the company has counter offered or come to agreement on 36 things, with another undisclosed number of items last week. This feels like a little progress, and I know it’s not really the heavy things yet but those won’t be chipped away until the easy ones are mostly done.
last 96 hours are the hardest to agree from both parties
I am optimistic this will be all over very soon
what we will get is to be seen and we the pilot group will decide because the MEC will pass the near AIP unanimously
#115
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next year. I think the AA AIP may have put some pressure on Kirby to get things done.
This latest update makes it sound like we may be getting close.
#116
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If and when we get a TA that is presented to the pilot group I hope the MEC has a very straight forward information and road show campaign without trying to sell it. I can understand those who have questions and have never been through a Section 6 process. The single issue voters and those who have the most perverse ideas(seniority abrogation for one) about what a contract should contain need a healthy dose of reality.
#117
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The C33 update dropped this morning with more detail:
Be safe out there everyone
To put it all into the proper context, back on 3 April, the Negotiating Committee provided the first in-depth “Position Report” which detailed our contract proposal and progress made to date. From that point in time until today, only six items have moved to the AGREE category. We currently have 60 open items remaining. This is not an acceptable pace of negotiation. And then on 25 May, the company passed a proposal across the table where they chose to group around 30 open items and craft a take it or leave it proposal. During the Special Meeting, the MEC reviewed the company proposal, did not like it, and chose instead to deal with those items as individual items, not as a group. The MEC provided the Negotiating Committee with updated guidance on these as well as a few other items. As you can imagine, most of these 60 items are not “low hanging fruit,” but instead represent the “meat and potatoes” of the contract value. Despite the fact that zero of the remaining sixty items were closed out, many members of the MEC viewed this “packaging approach” as progress. Our CEO claims these items will bankrupt our airline, are unworkable, yet similar items do no such thing at Delta Airlines. But given these words come from a CEO who promised us an agreement in 2 weeks, you have all the info you need to evaluate the sincerity of our CEO. The true story here is we are only able to move on an agreement as fast as our CEO wants us to move.
Last evening we just received the company’s long-awaited counterproposal for Sick Leave. The counter has pretty much assured mediation will continue to be the hot topic, as “lackluster” would be an over statement.
#118
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The C33 update dropped this morning with more detail
Last evening we just received the company’s long-awaited counterproposal for Sick Leave. The counter has pretty much assured mediation will continue to be the hot topic, as “lackluster” would be an over statement. As your Reps, we will continue to endorse the pursuit of mediation on your behalf as a useful tool in achieving an agreement worthy of United pilots. :
Be safe out there everyone
Last evening we just received the company’s long-awaited counterproposal for Sick Leave. The counter has pretty much assured mediation will continue to be the hot topic, as “lackluster” would be an over statement. As your Reps, we will continue to endorse the pursuit of mediation on your behalf as a useful tool in achieving an agreement worthy of United pilots. :
Be safe out there everyone
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