Originally Posted by Grumble

Just lock this thread and pin it to the top. This says it all. Nailed it.



Not sure what life event you had to miss out on, but I’m impressed you were able to muster the ability to certify you were fit for duty. Sounds like it def left an emotional scar.

Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald

We are moving as fast as ALPA will let us

Yeah, I read that and was immediately disgusted.

Originally Posted by three1five

Sorry for the thread takeover but need to respond… I think short call lines are a bad idea. I’m a commuter. I just went an entire 30 day period without being assigned to fly and was only assigned to do short call 3 times. The rest of the time was unused long call. NB, not GUM. This was amazing and occurred on our current contract. In other months when I barely fly I don’t get converted to short call more than 3x either. A full month short call reserve line would have been nightmarish for me compared to this situation.

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Originally Posted by dailyops

At what point do you forget you're an ALPA member and lose all sense of unity with your fellow pilots?

And again we see the constant boasting about how we're the biggest and most prepared international carrier in the world, while simultaneously saying getting rid of involuntary FSB or capping short calls will destroy the airline.

I'm glad he also reminded us the importance of seeing his family while the rest of us will be enduring a summer travel season full of reassignments and rolled days.

At this point if you're not wearing the lanyard I'm assuming you're willing to take any offer management throws out and agree with BQ's quote from the title of this thread. I'm tired of the BS excuses. The most common being:

"I don't wear lanyards"
You can wear your badge clip and an empty lanyard.

"they're cheap"
I have the original for 6 months that hasn't broken. I feel like this is just a phrase that's been regurgitated because a few people posted pictures of theirs breaking. If you want to continue to wear your college football lanyard that badly, then wear them both.

"I don't engage in company politics"
This is the life and livelihood for you and your family. This isn't politics!

"I can't find a lanyard"
This is the biggest BS one of all. If you can't "find" a lanyard, I assume that means you haven't tried to find one, haven't checked your mailbox, or you expect someone to personally serve you one on a silver platter.

I had Delta pilots, who have already secured the best contract in the industry, at our picket standing side by side with us wearing our lanyard. If they can do it, there's not a single valid excuse every United pilot can't.

Originally Posted by VamosALaPlaya

Originally Posted by three1five

Sorry for the thread takeover but need to respond… I think short call lines are a bad idea. I’m a commuter. I just went an entire 30 day period without being assigned to fly and was only assigned to do short call 3 times. The rest of the time was unused long call. NB, not GUM. This was amazing and occurred on our current contract. In other months when I barely fly I don’t get converted to short call more than 3x either. A full month short call reserve line would have been nightmarish for me compared to this situation.

To get back on topic, I agree that we are moving at the speed ALPA allows and I don’t think that’s a problem, so long as ALPA plays our cards correctly.

Originally Posted by ugleeual

Never bid a fleet/seat as a commuter. Don’t get your hope up on drastic reserve rule changes this round… never has and never will. When push comes to shove in racking/stacking the “gets” reserve rule improvements always gets second fiddle… we might see some SC/FSB rules but best case you’ll see minimal add pay for your trouble when jacked around.