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Old 05-09-2023, 02:40 PM
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1. The Company will cease providing paid drops based on the MOU.
The 32 "Long-Haul" COVID pilots will have their June pre-blocks changed from paid drops (PDCV) to sick drops.
If needed, these pilots will transition to Long Term Disability using a date of disability that allows them to access the higher cap from LOA 20-05.

2. All future COVID cases will be treated as normal sick events (i.e., no more restoration of sick for a positive COVID diagnosis).
Pilots will not be able to use sick leave for household members exhibiting flu-like symptoms.

3. The Company will reinstate Absence Monitoring effective immediately.
All pilots will start over with a clean attendance record (i.e., no lookback).

ALPA is expiditing arbitration to fight this.

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Old 05-09-2023, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 1257
1. The Company will cease providing paid drops based on the MOU.
The 32 "Long-Haul" COVID pilots will have their June pre-blocks changed from paid drops (PDCV) to sick drops.
If needed, these pilots will transition to Long Term Disability using a date of disability that allows them to access the higher cap from LOA 20-05.

2. All future COVID cases will be treated as normal sick events (i.e., no more restoration of sick for a positive COVID diagnosis).
Pilots will not be able to use sick leave for household members exhibiting flu-like symptoms.

3. The Company will reinstate Absence Monitoring effective immediately.
All pilots will start over with a clean attendance record (i.e., no lookback).

ALPA is expiditing arbitration to fight this.
Good. That BS is old news. This was long overdue.
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Old 05-09-2023, 03:28 PM
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300-400 dead a day. Not done yet. Another wave and variant
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Old 05-09-2023, 04:00 PM
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300-400 dead a day. Not done yet. Another wave and variant
And well over 2000 deaths per day are caused by cardiovascular disease. I think we’re all going to be okay…
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Old 05-09-2023, 04:05 PM
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Old 05-09-2023, 04:24 PM
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Good. That BS is old news. This was long overdue.
? This was a pretty good deal
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Old 05-09-2023, 04:59 PM
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And well over 2000 deaths per day are caused by cardiovascular disease. I think we’re all going to be okay…
Except for the 200+ people per day dying from it. By the way how many cardiovascular diseases are contagious and can be spread via a cough?
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Old 05-09-2023, 05:02 PM
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OMG absent monitoring! I am so afraid of Larry telling me I am sick too often, not! sorry FARs, sick don't fly.

This is totally their trying to cover the summer flying and threatening the pilots. NOTHING to do with COVID going away, but is good timing for the company. PLEASE do not fly sick. All you do is get the other pilot you are working with sick as well!
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Old 05-09-2023, 06:46 PM
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ALPA is expiditing arbitration to fight this.



I can’t believe any of the previous replies above addressed the fact that this is a violation of our agreement. Doesn’t matter what your view on COVID or AMS is, this is a pretty clear violation of the literal interpretation of our MOU.

Looking forward to ALPA fighting this one.
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Old 05-09-2023, 08:07 PM
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OMG absent monitoring! I am so afraid of Larry telling me I am sick too often, not! sorry FARs, sick don't fly.

This is totally their trying to cover the summer flying and threatening the pilots. NOTHING to do with COVID going away, but is good timing for the company. PLEASE do not fly sick. All you do is get the other pilot you are working with sick as well!
^^^ this ^^^ but unfortunately think CDC/POTUS ending the emergency will lead to grievance siding with the company.
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