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Old 05-11-2023, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by evodiver
It's almost like they want to rile us up.
Agreed.

This feels like they’re poking the bear. Seeing if they can get a response they can use to their advantage. Cool heads will prevail.

“absence monitoring on”. What the f@ck is that?
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Old 05-11-2023, 04:25 AM
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Is it ok if my daddy or mommy calls the CPO to tell them I’m sick? Or does that not count?

this feels a lot like the military. Here’s a $100 million plane with numerous lives in the back, but if you think you’re sick, we won’t believe you.
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Old 05-11-2023, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cal73

“absence monitoring on”. What the f@ck is that?
The company monitors your absences. There is a procedure in place to deal with your reliability starting at (I think) more than 6 events in a rolling 12 months. It’s largely non-punitive (e.g., phone call from CPO) since it’s legally very sketchy to discipline pilots for not flying while sick, but it’s there as a deterrent to the majority of pilots who try to fly below the radar.

Part of the COVID MOU was that absences would not be monitored by the company. They want to resume pressuring pilots against sick calls going into the summer. That’s all this is about.
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Old 05-11-2023, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
The company monitors your absences. There is a procedure in place to deal with your reliability starting at (I think) more than 6 events in a rolling 12 months. It’s largely non-punitive (e.g., phone call from CPO) since it’s legally very sketchy to discipline pilots for not flying while sick, but it’s there as a deterrent to the majority of pilots who try to fly below the radar.

Part of the COVID MOU was that absences would not be monitored by the company. They want to resume pressuring pilots against sick calls going into the summer. That’s all this is about.
Everything you wrote is correct except for “legally sketchy” part. It’s flat out illegal. No pilot ever has been, or ever will be fired for using sick leave. The company knows it, and the feds are very clear about who decides if they are fit for duty. (Imsafe, anyone). They know the lawsuits and fines from the feds would be harsh. But, we are employees, so technically we fall under their policy, even though it’s unenforceable, practically speaking.
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Old 05-11-2023, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
The company monitors your absences. There is a procedure in place to deal with your reliability starting at (I think) more than 6 events in a rolling 12 months. It’s largely non-punitive (e.g., phone call from CPO) since it’s legally very sketchy to discipline pilots for not flying while sick, but it’s there as a deterrent to the majority of pilots who try to fly below the radar.

Part of the COVID MOU was that absences would not be monitored by the company. They want to resume pressuring pilots against sick calls going into the summer. That’s all this is about.
I got one of those calls a few years ago over a combination of sick calls and commuter policy trips ringing the bell. I told them that I was either sick or that I complied with the commuter policy and went home. They didn’t have anything else to say. I know that I didn’t have to answer the phone, but sometimes tormenting them is cheap entertainment. The core4 crowd working in the office really hates apathy.
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Old 05-11-2023, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
I got one of those calls a few years ago over a combination of sick calls and commuter policy trips ringing the bell. I told them that I was either sick or that I complied with the commuter policy and went home. They didn’t have anything else to say. I know that I didn’t have to answer the phone, but sometimes tormenting them is cheap entertainment. The core4 crowd working in the office really hates apathy.
Lol. Good stuff. You know what we(APLA) hate? A 5 year past due UPA and a lying CEO who makes promises and fails to keep them. They get the level of motivation from the pilots they deserve.
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Old 05-11-2023, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
Lol. Good stuff. You know what we(APLA) hate? A 5 year past due UPA and a lying CEO who makes promises and fails to keep them. They get the level of motivation from the pilots they deserve.
Unless we have a summer without weather issues, an apathetic pilot group could bite them in the butt. Obviously not suggesting job actions, but when the pilot group stops caring and doesn’t go the extra mile when things go south, things will be a mess.
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
The company monitors your absences. There is a procedure in place to deal with your reliability starting at (I think) more than 6 events in a rolling 12 months. It’s largely non-punitive (e.g., phone call from CPO) since it’s legally very sketchy to discipline pilots for not flying while sick, but it’s there as a deterrent to the majority of pilots who try to fly below the radar.

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You're exactly right. I’ve called in sick because my head wasn’t in the game due to me working forced 90 hour lines for a year. I called in sick because I was beat up, worn out, tired of missing things at home with my 12 days off, etc. Emotionally, I needed a break.

All within IMSAFE.

https://www.faasafety.gov/files/gsla...A-H-8083-2.pdf
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Old 05-11-2023, 04:21 PM
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Does this mean they are dropping the vaccine mandate for new hires too!?
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Old 05-11-2023, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviator4life
Does this mean they are dropping the vaccine mandate for new hires too!?
That happened a few weeks ago.
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