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04-29-2023, 08:50 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by 86BravoPapa;[url=tel:3630597
3630597]This United commuting thing is scary stuff for someone from the outside looking in. It seems hard to believe it's so bad at a legacy but it certainly seems like a case of 'where there's smoke, there's fire', and there's a lot of smoke. So aside from the jumpseat senority issue, what makes it so bad? How do pilots handle the hardship; aside from moving to base? It seems like such a great opportunity but forum talk paints a heck of a picture...
At United you give yourself 2 flights, if you don’t make it you call the crew desk and the positive space you if they need you…If not you go home. Of the 2 or 3 times that happened they positive spaced me.
We have some losers here that just show up and don’t list but there is not many. commuting sucks no matter what….there is no good commute.
04-30-2023, 12:54 AM
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This is off topic… But I am a DCA 756 commuter who has a similar drive time to base. My drive is about 3 1/2 hours… Something I do is I got the parking pass in base but pay for a parking at my home airport out of pocket… That way if I have a trip, I can commute by air. But if I am sitting SC, I would just drive to base…
04-30-2023, 02:02 AM
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Dude, I am in the exact same position. Got CJOs from both. class dates are 2 weeks apart.
I live in MCO, I heard so many good things from my peers at UA and DL.
I would love to have MCO eventually but I also like WB, I don't mind commuting at DL because my friends told me it is easy commute on DL, not so much on UA. DL has a better contract right now but who knows what UA will have.
I know I'll have to commute if I get WB at UA. The reserve rules are also no where as good as delta.
So right now I'm faced with a dilemma. Do I go to UA class first, see what I get and how it is, does it fit me? Then if I don't like go to DL? Or just go to DL directly?
I live in MCO, I heard so many good things from my peers at UA and DL.
I would love to have MCO eventually but I also like WB, I don't mind commuting at DL because my friends told me it is easy commute on DL, not so much on UA. DL has a better contract right now but who knows what UA will have.
I know I'll have to commute if I get WB at UA. The reserve rules are also no where as good as delta.
So right now I'm faced with a dilemma. Do I go to UA class first, see what I get and how it is, does it fit me? Then if I don't like go to DL? Or just go to DL directly?
04-30-2023, 05:16 AM
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I commuted for my first 5 years. It’s fine. People just want the DL way to be sitting at the computer at midnight waiting for the clock to hit zero so they can sign up for a ride……I want to hear what these same pilots say when they are top 100 seniority playing a BS game after 30 years. My bet is they will say that the DL way is BS because they are senior….
At United you give yourself 2 flights, if you don’t make it you call the crew desk and the positive space you if they need you…If not you go home. Of the 2 or 3 times that happened they positive spaced me.
We have some losers here that just show up and don’t list but there is not many. commuting sucks no matter what….there is no good commute.
At United you give yourself 2 flights, if you don’t make it you call the crew desk and the positive space you if they need you…If not you go home. Of the 2 or 3 times that happened they positive spaced me.
We have some losers here that just show up and don’t list but there is not many. commuting sucks no matter what….there is no good commute.
So, I like that their system prioritizes work related jump seating over non reving Maybe a cross between both systems could achieve commuter nirvana.
Probably not achievable when some suffer from "We have the greatest system, no changes needed" syndrome.
04-30-2023, 11:25 AM
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This is how I feel after spending countless hours on these forums gathering opinions:
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04-30-2023, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly4FunAA;[url=tel:3630069
3630069[/url]]Copied this from the Delta forum to get United’s opinion….
Currently I’m a SWA FO on mil leave with my 1yr at SWA coming up next month. I’ve already decided I’m leaving SWA, but I have a good problem I’m contemplating.
I’m 28, mil duty is in MCO, home is in IND. I really really like Delta, but I’d be foolish not to consider United with the MCO base. I have a CJO/Class Date with Delta and have an interview soon with United.
ATL/NYC/DTW work really well for me with Delta. MCO/ORD/EWR work well with United. I want to fly widebodies and both have that. Delta has a better contract and brand, but United’s bases could allow me to easily live in base.
Both seem like really good options. A lot better than SWA in the current market. My only worry is with recession possibly looming, of a furlough.
Would one carrier be better than the other when it comes to furlough protection? Is there something more I should consider before I make a decision? I’m leaning strongly Delta, but I don’t want to overlook United.
Currently I’m a SWA FO on mil leave with my 1yr at SWA coming up next month. I’ve already decided I’m leaving SWA, but I have a good problem I’m contemplating.
I’m 28, mil duty is in MCO, home is in IND. I really really like Delta, but I’d be foolish not to consider United with the MCO base. I have a CJO/Class Date with Delta and have an interview soon with United.
ATL/NYC/DTW work really well for me with Delta. MCO/ORD/EWR work well with United. I want to fly widebodies and both have that. Delta has a better contract and brand, but United’s bases could allow me to easily live in base.
Both seem like really good options. A lot better than SWA in the current market. My only worry is with recession possibly looming, of a furlough.
Would one carrier be better than the other when it comes to furlough protection? Is there something more I should consider before I make a decision? I’m leaning strongly Delta, but I don’t want to overlook United.
Delta, 100%. They will always make more, always have better work rules, better QOL, more affordable domiciles. About all UAL offers is more variety in WB flying, but even that gets old after a while. You’re mil so I assume you’ve made it around and value your time home more than anything else, well reserve goes senior at DAL. At United it’s a punishment.
Don’t let an MCO base tempt you. It’s a 737 base only, probably won’t be much more if it even survives the next down turn. It’s new, it’s small, it’s a trial run.
05-01-2023, 05:14 AM
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This is only partially true and somewhat misleading. At Delta, there is a time "game" to booking a jump seat based on first come first served. However, it is triaged for importance. Going to work? 5 days prior the window opens for booking. Going home from work? 3 days prior the window open up. Non-reving and want a back up jump seat? A day prior the window open up.
So, I like that their system prioritizes work related jump seating over non reving Maybe a cross between both systems could achieve commuter nirvana.
Probably not achievable when some suffer from "We have the greatest system, no changes needed" syndrome.
So, I like that their system prioritizes work related jump seating over non reving Maybe a cross between both systems could achieve commuter nirvana.
Probably not achievable when some suffer from "We have the greatest system, no changes needed" syndrome.
while there are senior people who change plans last minute, it’s not as bad as made out here.
05-01-2023, 11:15 AM
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I commuted for my first 5 years. It’s fine. People just want the DL way to be sitting at the computer at midnight waiting for the clock to hit zero so they can sign up for a ride……I want to hear what these same pilots say when they are top 100 seniority playing a BS game after 30 years. My bet is they will say that the DL way is BS because they are senior….
At United you give yourself 2 flights, if you don’t make it you call the crew desk and the positive space you if they need you…If not you go home. Of the 2 or 3 times that happened they positive spaced me.
We have some losers here that just show up and don’t list but there is not many. commuting sucks no matter what….there is no good commute.
At United you give yourself 2 flights, if you don’t make it you call the crew desk and the positive space you if they need you…If not you go home. Of the 2 or 3 times that happened they positive spaced me.
We have some losers here that just show up and don’t list but there is not many. commuting sucks no matter what….there is no good commute.
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