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Old 04-15-2023, 08:56 AM
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Lots of pearl clutching from a creative guerrilla messaging opportunity / unity building gambit is why Kirby is in no hurry to deal.

just an unbelievable level of pusillanimous risk aversion. Definitely not ready for a strike vote
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Old 04-15-2023, 09:31 AM
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Childish? Maybe. We're pilots and it's ingrained in us. But, for those in attendance sipping on a golden frosty pop and probably spilling half of it reading the message, it was a priceless moment they'll never forget.
The day we get an industry leading contract will be a priceless moment. Catchphrases & burns are worth about as much to me as SK’s promises.
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FWIW, it costs $100 to put a message on the screen apparently. Much cheaper than I would have thought.
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Old 04-15-2023, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
The day we get an industry leading contract will be a priceless moment. Catchphrases & burns are worth about as much to me as SK’s promises.
Okay. I guess we'll just have to agree to fix it now.
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
The day we get an industry leading contract will be a priceless moment. Catchphrases & burns are worth about as much to me as SK’s promises.
Leverage in Section 6 does not completely revolve around the feelings of your CEO. As others have mentioned, a unified pilot group is a necessary ingredient for the eventual path to a strike to be a credible threat.
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Old 04-15-2023, 07:47 PM
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Leverage in Section 6 does not completely revolve around the feelings of your CEO. As others have mentioned, a unified pilot group is a necessary ingredient for the eventual path to a strike to be a credible threat.
So if it’s such an effective motivating tool, why hasn’t the union sent us photos of this like they do all the picketing events? Seems weird for them to “unify” only the small handful that happened to be at a ballgame, don’t you think?

If you’ve been to a picketing event, you’ll know that everything is carefully coordinated- from what you wear, to how you stand, to what you can say (with a sign), & what you can’t (pretty much anything else). It’s effective because it displays the strength of our unity while preserving a public image of strict professionalism. (That “credible threat” you mention.) For me, teasing the CEO at a baseball game really doesn’t follow in that pattern.

What would make me feel unified is a cohesive battle strategy & clear, consistent communication- not clumsy one-liners. (Where does “rowing” even come from? Was he a crew guy or something?) But it seems to have excited a lot of people here so maybe I’m in the minority.
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
So if it’s such an effective motivating tool, why hasn’t the union sent us photos of this like they do all the picketing events? Seems weird for them to “unify” only the small handful that happened to be at a ballgame, don’t you think?

If you’ve been to a picketing event, you’ll know that everything is carefully coordinated- from what you wear, to how you stand, to what you can say (with a sign), & what you can’t (pretty much anything else). It’s effective because it displays the strength of our unity while preserving a public image of strict professionalism. (That “credible threat” you mention.) For me, teasing the CEO at a baseball game really doesn’t follow in that pattern.

What would make me feel unified is a cohesive battle strategy & clear, consistent communication- not clumsy one-liners. (Where does “rowing” even come from? Was he a crew guy or something?) But it seems to have excited a lot of people here so maybe I’m in the minority.
Apparently you didn’t read the recent MEC chairman’s update that talked about the CEO needing to row our way.
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Old 04-16-2023, 04:32 AM
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Was at the game...can confirm it was real. Displayed amongst other messages of mom's and dad's wishing their kids happy birthday, anniversary messages, and so on. It was an ALPA family awareness event in which they gave out t-shirts saying similar things.
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Apparently you didn’t read the recent MEC chairman’s update that talked about the CEO needing to row our way.
Ah, well now that you mention it that does ring a bell. I guess that metaphor wasn’t among the more noteworthy parts of that communication, but it does at least make a little more sense to me.
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
Ah, well now that you mention it that does ring a bell. I guess that metaphor wasn’t among the more noteworthy parts of that communication, but it does at least make a little more sense to me.
It stuck out to me as being a little different. I guess different people remember different things - fair enough!
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