Broncofan

sounds like you shouldn’t bid reserve.. honestly I’m not too worried about reserve rules. They aren’t the best but I have had much worse in my career. I also avoid it. This is a company problem. If they don’t fix it, they will continue to have a hard time filling Captain slots. Worst case scenario people stop coming to Indoc classes because of it and they will have to do something about it. Until then, i’m just going to continue to avoid bidding for BES that would put me on reserve.

Race Bannon

So, using that logic we don't need to worry about pay rates or scope or well.. ANYTHING. "They aren’t the best but I have had much worse in my career." ."This is a company problem. If they don’t fix it, they will continue to have a hard time filling Captain slots. Worst case scenario people stop coming to Indoc classes because of it and they will have to do something about it."

So, in essence we can just sit back because the company will fix all our issues to remain competitive for new hires and to fill captain positions?

This is why "reserve" keeps getting brought up on this forum

serce

I spent 7 years on reserve in the right seat of an RJ. It wasn't by choice. You never know when the music stops.

Airhoss

NEWS FLASH!

We didn’t give ANYTHING away in TA1. It was voted down by 94%,we had a crooked MEC who left a legacy of Kirby centric toddlers who tried to pass off a ridiculously substandard pro management TA as an industry leading contract. Most of them got fired from ALPA. The message is loud and clear, NOTHING was given away in the failed TA1 that’s why we voted it down and fired the losers who tried to push it off on us.

Airhoss

In my 25.5 years with UAL I’ve spent a grand total of about 10 years on reserve. INCLUDING being shipped back to reserve during the lovely spring and summer of 2020 when I only had 23.5 years seniority with UAL. I also spent an additional sentence at TK to avoid reserve after getting mauled on the ISL while watching folks with 10 years less time on property enjoy holding a line on my desired seats.

So when I see a comment like yours regarding if you don’t want to be on reserve don’t bid it. I immediately assume you have been coddled in your career and haven’t yet experienced the realities of an airline industry induced B-slap. And your credibility with me drops to just below zero.

We need to fix reserve so it’s livable and commutable. Because you never know when the aviation gods are going to smite thee with yet another stint of commuting to reserve. Without solid meaningful reserve improvements, I’m a hard no vote.

Swakid8

Contrary to popular belief, reserve isn’t a choice for many. You might one day find yourself on reserve against your wishes one day as well….

Broncofan

I spent 8 years at regionals, all of which were commuting and for the most part, a 3 leg commute to reserve, but that was my choice to follow my wife’s career. Then spent 3 years at United commuting to global reserve. I understand that it sucks. However I don’t want to spend too much time and money negotiating for it. Some things in global reserve need to change, however the vast majority of guys on reserve right now choose to be there. Also if you live in base, there isn’t much to complain about besides the onslaught of FSB’s and short calls which seem to be getting taken care of. Sure sometimes reserve isn’t a choice, but despite what you say, everyone has the ability to move in base, just whether or not you choose to is up to you. My concern is guys are going to get an overall good contract in front of them but turn it down because first day call out is 10 am.. the horror.

Hedley

If a person’s definition of industry leading is that every single line in our contract exceeds all other companies, they will be forever disappointed. Across all sections, some things will be better than the competition, some will fall short. It’s a package deal and there is no way to make 15,000+ people with individual priorities happy. All we can do is to wait for the final deal to come out and then vote accordingly.

AxlF16

We DON'T have that in our current contract. Go read it if you doubt me. We are 'protected' by the FAR and the FAAs current interpretation of what constitutes duty.

JackReacher

It’s obvious you haven’t spent time at a major during economic downturns with comments like these. Reserve isn’t always a choice, and many times you cant move within BES if there aren’t any vacancies or displacements. When UAL reserve rules are worse than every other Major and LCC, to include the likes of Spirit, Allegiant and Frontier, then there is problem. It’s about as obvious as a 10 pound tick on a 5 pound dog. The reserve rules MUST change and change now. I’m pretty sure your thinking is in the minority.