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Originally Posted by 500RVR;[url=tel:3619914
3619914]Heard it was for a serious health issue.
Also new position isn’t the position that Bryan had. It’s a watered down version.
Also new position isn’t the position that Bryan had. It’s a watered down version.
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#22
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Maybe because the posts in answer to the "improve reserve crowd" invariably gets the cursory, "Yea, it's bad but there are other things more important" The fixes to reserve you mentioned are now Delta standard. Many act like that will use too much negotiating capital to get your aforementioned industry standard improvements and is too big of a hill to climb because it may come at "their expense". That leads them to continue to push "fix reserve", in an attempt to get buy in from the more senior guys. They want a unified front on "Fix reserve now dammit" before they can move on to your other bigger items.
Other than pay, which will be industry leading (even mgt knows that), what "other bigger items" are of concern to you? Believe me, you will get buy-in from the "fix reserve crowd". But, it won't be, "Do your stuff and then if any "negotiating pie" is left over sweep the crumbs towards fixing reserve" which the senior guys appear to tout..
Other than pay, which will be industry leading (even mgt knows that), what "other bigger items" are of concern to you? Believe me, you will get buy-in from the "fix reserve crowd". But, it won't be, "Do your stuff and then if any "negotiating pie" is left over sweep the crumbs towards fixing reserve" which the senior guys appear to tout..
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Other than pay, which will be industry leading (even mgt knows that), what "other bigger items" are of concern to you? Believe me, you will get buy-in from the "fix reserve crowd". But, it won't be, "Do your stuff and then if any "negotiating pie" is left over sweep the crumbs towards fixing reserve" which the senior guys appear to tout..
Increased retirement contributions- B fund, 401(k), etc.
Increased LTD cap
Increased sick leave accrual, including better rapid accrual when depleted
Increased vacation credit
Increased training credit- training pays like a flight
Increased trip protections/more stringent reassignment rules
Significant add pay for trip extensions/ reassignments
Increased accountability rules on scheduling for staffing levels- make it easier to drop and trade trips
Tighter rules establishing the G-line
Overs protected on a per leg basis
Rates that exceed Delta
Me too clause
Improved trip rigs for long layovers, airport appreciation, etc.
Premium pay at 100% minimum
Instructors at TK paid what they can hold
Furlough protections
And yes, our reserve rules need significant improvements. I’m not going to get everything that I want, and those focused on reserve rules won’t either. It will be a compromise and we’ll have an opportunity to vote on the package in its entirety……….eventually.
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No scope creep, tighten the language
Increased retirement contributions- B fund, 401(k), etc.
Increased LTD cap
Increased sick leave accrual, including better rapid accrual when depleted
Increased vacation credit
Increased training credit- training pays like a flight
Increased trip protections/more stringent reassignment rules
Significant add pay for trip extensions/ reassignments
Increased accountability rules on scheduling for staffing levels- make it easier to drop and trade trips
Tighter rules establishing the G-line
Overs protected on a per leg basis
Rates that exceed Delta
Me too clause
Improved trip rigs for long layovers, airport appreciation, etc.
Premium pay at 100% minimum
Instructors at TK paid what they can hold
Furlough protections
And yes, our reserve rules need significant improvements. I’m not going to get everything that I want, and those focused on reserve rules won’t either. It will be a compromise and we’ll have an opportunity to vote on the package in its entirety……….eventually.
Increased retirement contributions- B fund, 401(k), etc.
Increased LTD cap
Increased sick leave accrual, including better rapid accrual when depleted
Increased vacation credit
Increased training credit- training pays like a flight
Increased trip protections/more stringent reassignment rules
Significant add pay for trip extensions/ reassignments
Increased accountability rules on scheduling for staffing levels- make it easier to drop and trade trips
Tighter rules establishing the G-line
Overs protected on a per leg basis
Rates that exceed Delta
Me too clause
Improved trip rigs for long layovers, airport appreciation, etc.
Premium pay at 100% minimum
Instructors at TK paid what they can hold
Furlough protections
And yes, our reserve rules need significant improvements. I’m not going to get everything that I want, and those focused on reserve rules won’t either. It will be a compromise and we’ll have an opportunity to vote on the package in its entirety……….eventually.
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Agreed. A lot of guys lost their jobs because of it too(rightfully so). Hopefully the direction from the new MEC to the old /current NC chairman is more in touch this time around.
We still have posters that feel that improving things for the senior guys is more important than bringing reserve(the whole package) up to industry standard.
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There are improvements agreed to, and open. Until it’s finalized, we can’t really judge it. The reserve first crowd isn’t going to get everything that they want, and the reserve last crowd won’t either.
From the last negotiations notes:
Agreed:
No involuntary assignment before 10 a.m. on Day 1 of a reserve block
Elimination of flexible day off (FDOs) for Global categories
Option to split holy days off (HDOs) into two shorter periods in Global categories
Voluntary Long Call Reserve lines where short call (SC) and field standby (FSB) is only through aggressive pick-up (APU)
Reserves maintain original scheduled release time when deviating
Increased restrictions on assigning Visiting Reserves
All unused Short Call assignments receive 1 hour of additional minimum pay guarantee (MPG)
Trip trades between reserves
Reserve day-for-day trades
Add Pay for reserve rolled days off
Add Pay for late build Short Calls
Improved release times if unused on last day of reserve
Add Pay for voluntary assignments that start prior to 10 a.m. on Day 1
Open Items:
Increase in number of reserve days off
Increase in the daily value of reserve guarantee
Pilot option to add an additional reserve day in high LPA months
Short Call caps
Elimination of FDOs for Basic categories
Elimination of involuntary FSB
Improved voluntary reserve options
Improved Long Call and Short Call callout times
Increased pay for voluntary FSB
Remove crew desk discretion from reserve assignment order
Incentives to avoid involuntarily rolling of reserve days off
From the last negotiations notes:
Agreed:
No involuntary assignment before 10 a.m. on Day 1 of a reserve block
Elimination of flexible day off (FDOs) for Global categories
Option to split holy days off (HDOs) into two shorter periods in Global categories
Voluntary Long Call Reserve lines where short call (SC) and field standby (FSB) is only through aggressive pick-up (APU)
Reserves maintain original scheduled release time when deviating
Increased restrictions on assigning Visiting Reserves
All unused Short Call assignments receive 1 hour of additional minimum pay guarantee (MPG)
Trip trades between reserves
Reserve day-for-day trades
Add Pay for reserve rolled days off
Add Pay for late build Short Calls
Improved release times if unused on last day of reserve
Add Pay for voluntary assignments that start prior to 10 a.m. on Day 1
Open Items:
Increase in number of reserve days off
Increase in the daily value of reserve guarantee
Pilot option to add an additional reserve day in high LPA months
Short Call caps
Elimination of FDOs for Basic categories
Elimination of involuntary FSB
Improved voluntary reserve options
Improved Long Call and Short Call callout times
Increased pay for voluntary FSB
Remove crew desk discretion from reserve assignment order
Incentives to avoid involuntarily rolling of reserve days off
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There are improvements agreed to, and open. Until it’s finalized, we can’t really judge it. The reserve first crowd isn’t going to get everything that they want, and the reserve last crowd won’t either.
From the last negotiations notes:
Agreed:
No involuntary assignment before 10 a.m. on Day 1 of a reserve block
Elimination of flexible day off (FDOs) for Global categories
Option to split holy days off (HDOs) into two shorter periods in Global categories
Voluntary Long Call Reserve lines where short call (SC) and field standby (FSB) is only through aggressive pick-up (APU)
Reserves maintain original scheduled release time when deviating
Increased restrictions on assigning Visiting Reserves
All unused Short Call assignments receive 1 hour of additional minimum pay guarantee (MPG)
Trip trades between reserves
Reserve day-for-day trades
Add Pay for reserve rolled days off
Add Pay for late build Short Calls
Improved release times if unused on last day of reserve
Add Pay for voluntary assignments that start prior to 10 a.m. on Day 1
Open Items:
Increase in number of reserve days off
Increase in the daily value of reserve guarantee
Pilot option to add an additional reserve day in high LPA months
Short Call caps
Elimination of FDOs for Basic categories
Elimination of involuntary FSB
Improved voluntary reserve options
Improved Long Call and Short Call callout times
Increased pay for voluntary FSB
Remove crew desk discretion from reserve assignment order
Incentives to avoid involuntarily rolling of reserve days off
From the last negotiations notes:
Agreed:
No involuntary assignment before 10 a.m. on Day 1 of a reserve block
Elimination of flexible day off (FDOs) for Global categories
Option to split holy days off (HDOs) into two shorter periods in Global categories
Voluntary Long Call Reserve lines where short call (SC) and field standby (FSB) is only through aggressive pick-up (APU)
Reserves maintain original scheduled release time when deviating
Increased restrictions on assigning Visiting Reserves
All unused Short Call assignments receive 1 hour of additional minimum pay guarantee (MPG)
Trip trades between reserves
Reserve day-for-day trades
Add Pay for reserve rolled days off
Add Pay for late build Short Calls
Improved release times if unused on last day of reserve
Add Pay for voluntary assignments that start prior to 10 a.m. on Day 1
Open Items:
Increase in number of reserve days off
Increase in the daily value of reserve guarantee
Pilot option to add an additional reserve day in high LPA months
Short Call caps
Elimination of FDOs for Basic categories
Elimination of involuntary FSB
Improved voluntary reserve options
Improved Long Call and Short Call callout times
Increased pay for voluntary FSB
Remove crew desk discretion from reserve assignment order
Incentives to avoid involuntarily rolling of reserve days off
Elimination of FDO's for global reserve virtually makes no difference. Global reserve is United invention, it should be abolished all together. No one else has it.
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There are improvements agreed to, and open. Until it’s finalized, we can’t really judge it. The reserve first crowd isn’t going to get everything that they want, and the reserve last crowd won’t either.
From the last negotiations notes:
Agreed:
No involuntary assignment before 10 a.m. on Day 1 of a reserve block
Elimination of flexible day off (FDOs) for Global categories
Option to split holy days off (HDOs) into two shorter periods in Global categories
Voluntary Long Call Reserve lines where short call (SC) and field standby (FSB) is only through aggressive pick-up (APU)
Reserves maintain original scheduled release time when deviating
Increased restrictions on assigning Visiting Reserves
All unused Short Call assignments receive 1 hour of additional minimum pay guarantee (MPG)
Trip trades between reserves
Reserve day-for-day trades
Add Pay for reserve rolled days off
Add Pay for late build Short Calls
Improved release times if unused on last day of reserve
Add Pay for voluntary assignments that start prior to 10 a.m. on Day 1
Open Items:
Increase in number of reserve days off
Increase in the daily value of reserve guarantee
Pilot option to add an additional reserve day in high LPA months
Short Call caps
Elimination of FDOs for Basic categories
Elimination of involuntary FSB
Improved voluntary reserve options
Improved Long Call and Short Call callout times
Increased pay for voluntary FSB
Remove crew desk discretion from reserve assignment order
Incentives to avoid involuntarily rolling of reserve days off
From the last negotiations notes:
Agreed:
No involuntary assignment before 10 a.m. on Day 1 of a reserve block
Elimination of flexible day off (FDOs) for Global categories
Option to split holy days off (HDOs) into two shorter periods in Global categories
Voluntary Long Call Reserve lines where short call (SC) and field standby (FSB) is only through aggressive pick-up (APU)
Reserves maintain original scheduled release time when deviating
Increased restrictions on assigning Visiting Reserves
All unused Short Call assignments receive 1 hour of additional minimum pay guarantee (MPG)
Trip trades between reserves
Reserve day-for-day trades
Add Pay for reserve rolled days off
Add Pay for late build Short Calls
Improved release times if unused on last day of reserve
Add Pay for voluntary assignments that start prior to 10 a.m. on Day 1
Open Items:
Increase in number of reserve days off
Increase in the daily value of reserve guarantee
Pilot option to add an additional reserve day in high LPA months
Short Call caps
Elimination of FDOs for Basic categories
Elimination of involuntary FSB
Improved voluntary reserve options
Improved Long Call and Short Call callout times
Increased pay for voluntary FSB
Remove crew desk discretion from reserve assignment order
Incentives to avoid involuntarily rolling of reserve days off
we may as well roll the dice and vote in a contract with these rules. Odds are that they still cannot fill the CA vacancies. Then the company needs to consider an LOA with improvements ….
#29
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Unfortunately, while the list of agreed items is long it's a mere Pfft!!! towards fixing reserve. It's the things in the "open items" that are the important items, and mostly fall into the Delta standard, that will actually make reserve better and in line with industry standard.
Pretty bad when the rallying cry of a major airline is, "Give me industry standard !!"
And that's why "reserve" is a hot topic on the forum.
JMHO
edit... TFAYD beat me to it
Pretty bad when the rallying cry of a major airline is, "Give me industry standard !!"
And that's why "reserve" is a hot topic on the forum.
JMHO
edit... TFAYD beat me to it
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What time does JetBlue release reserves on their last day?