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04-02-2023, 04:58 PM
#41
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This is a very misunderstood part of the contract. You get four days for a ”critical illness” (surgery, injury, cancer diagnosis, etc), and four additional days for a death. However, if the person has already died, you only have four days.
An example would be: (god forbid) your dad gets hurt in a motorcycle accident. you call the chief pilot office and say you need four days off to be with your critically ill father and you need positive space for yourself and wife/kids, while however, enroute your dad passes away. You are now entitled to four more days. It is true that you only get essentially eight total days for the specific family members listed in the UPA, and that you have to be intelligent. But they are paid, and the CPO will throw their full weight behind you. One caveat is that once a person has died, you only get four days. The contract reads it is four days per event. The company/Labor relations views a critical illness and death as two separate events. Ask me how I know.
This is one of those black-and-white sections of the contract where most human beings are very glad to offer support, because it helps another pilot, generates goodwill, and costs them nothing.
An example would be: (god forbid) your dad gets hurt in a motorcycle accident. you call the chief pilot office and say you need four days off to be with your critically ill father and you need positive space for yourself and wife/kids, while however, enroute your dad passes away. You are now entitled to four more days. It is true that you only get essentially eight total days for the specific family members listed in the UPA, and that you have to be intelligent. But they are paid, and the CPO will throw their full weight behind you. One caveat is that once a person has died, you only get four days. The contract reads it is four days per event. The company/Labor relations views a critical illness and death as two separate events. Ask me how I know.
This is one of those black-and-white sections of the contract where most human beings are very glad to offer support, because it helps another pilot, generates goodwill, and costs them nothing.
The CPO, FODM, and everyone else involved bent over backward for us. Somehow even the gate agents and FAs on our flights home knew that we were traveling on that specific kind of PS ticket and treated us like royalty. Absolutely a class act by our company. United isn’t perfect, and I’m sure the CPOs are each different, but EWR earned some serious gratitude with my family and I last year, and I remember that every time I start to get froggy about certain things here.
04-03-2023, 12:19 PM
#46
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Hold the line on getting the 5% we paid for during COVID! We provided the company a tremendous advantage over their competitors with that concession, and we must be paid for it as agreed to! If we do not get Delta +5% we got violently screwed over.
04-03-2023, 12:23 PM
#47
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04-03-2023, 12:29 PM
#48
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Originally Posted by LJ Driver;[url=tel:3618138
3618138[/url]]Yes. This very event happened to me. My wife’s father was exceptionally ill. I requested PS for my family of four to travel there. The company “bought” the next 4 days of my schedule, which was about 24 hours. He then passed away while we were there. The company bought 4 more days, we stayed for all the arrangements and then they offered PS home. No sick time used.
The CPO, FODM, and everyone else involved bent over backward for us. Somehow even the gate agents and FAs on our flights home knew that we were traveling on that specific kind of PS ticket and treated us like royalty. Absolutely a class act by our company. United isn’t perfect, and I’m sure the CPOs are each different, but EWR earned some serious gratitude with my family and I last year, and I remember that every time I start to get froggy about certain things here.
The CPO, FODM, and everyone else involved bent over backward for us. Somehow even the gate agents and FAs on our flights home knew that we were traveling on that specific kind of PS ticket and treated us like royalty. Absolutely a class act by our company. United isn’t perfect, and I’m sure the CPOs are each different, but EWR earned some serious gratitude with my family and I last year, and I remember that every time I start to get froggy about certain things here.
We took off out of TPA and passing though 10k’ we we’re cleared direct KEWR. From FL!!!! I can only imagine that someone in the NOSC was told something and worked a drug deal with the FAA/ATC to get us there as fast as possible. It was the middle of the morning too, in the summer. Try getting direct to anywhere up and down the east coast on a clear summer day!
As we pulled into the gate a CSR met us, grabbed me and took me down to one of those Mercedes we used to have for the big customers. They drove me across the ramp to the flight that was being held so I could catch an earlier one. Took me up to the jet bridge and put me in a FC seat. Total time from phone call to me getting home was like 9 hours.
As much as we bicker, when the feces it’s the circular air manipulator this company is top notch in taking care of their own and I’ll never forget that.
04-03-2023, 12:57 PM
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Position: 787 Captain
Posts: 1,512
Then a snap up to Delta +5.
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