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Old 02-24-2023, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
this didn’t age well did El Peso? AA appears to be even less of a factor in ORD now. This will continue, by the end of the decade AA will be a shell in ORD.
They said the same thing about UAL in Denver 10 years ago. Now look at them. Things change.
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Old 02-25-2023, 08:36 AM
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DON’T come to UAL based on Kirby. Kirby is a sleazy snake oil salesman. Don’t believe a word he says.

Four plus years past due and that fool isn’t even matching Delta. He’s losing all the imagined good will of the pilot group.
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Old 02-25-2023, 09:24 AM
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​​​​​​With war looming, young ones defaulting on car and credit card payments at a record pace. UAL will furlough thousands if need to be.
​​​​​​Uncle Sam ain't goin to bail you out this time.
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Old 02-25-2023, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tommy2times
​​​​​​With war looming, young ones defaulting on car and credit card payments at a record pace. UAL will furlough thousands if need to be.
​​​​​​Uncle Sam ain't goin to bail you out this time.
What happened now?
Why is the world ending?
And when is AA declaring bankruptcy?

I need to know for my Miata down payment.
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Old 02-25-2023, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
The only gate UAL operates out of the C gates is the one owned by the city. And I’m not even sure why you guys park there when you have an entire terminal. It’s gotta be a PITA for crews and pax to have to get off and take the train to B and haul ass to the end to catch their next flight in 30 min.

WN is growing to around 400 flights a day in DEN and AA will be evicted from the C gates and moving back to A in a year or so. It’ll be the biggest base for WN….and it’s not going anywhere. If UAL is going to 900 flights a day….you’re gonna need way more gates and a couple more runways…neither is happening anytime soon.
Actually, AA is going to be the only other major in the C concourse when the music stops. UA will have all of B and almost half of the A concourse.

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Old 02-25-2023, 02:26 PM
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I’d heard sometime in ‘24 AA would move back to A from a friend who’s a DIA airport engineer. No idea if that’s changed or not though.
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Old 02-26-2023, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
this didn’t age well did El Peso? AA appears to be even less of a factor in ORD now. This will continue, by the end of the decade AA will be a shell in ORD.
United is literally 26% bigger in ORD than AA. How you call that barely a factor when comparing the two is just some mental gymnastics that I can’t follow.

Next. Network planning builds a dream schedule they’d like to fly. Flights ops comes back and says here’s what we can fly without stretching the operations too thin. They have explicit direction from the top to focus on reliability. So what you’re seeing is network plannings’ dream schedule being trimmed. Mostly of course is due to pilot shortage at Eagle.

What you’re not seeing of course is that many former Eagle cities are now seeing bigger mainline planes. Particularly in CLT.

Btw did you miss that UAL cut out 36 markets from EWR all together just a few months ago? Want to guess what the driver for that decision was?
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Old 02-26-2023, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
Btw did you miss that UAL cut out 36 markets from EWR all together just a few months ago? Want to guess what the driver for that decision was?
UAL is slot restricted in EWR. So cutting out 36 markets means that United has picked up 36 more profitable routes, like the 2nd daily Naples flight they just added. Also Untied is replacing all RJs into EWR with mainline planes so that’s going to change where those planes fly.
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Old 02-26-2023, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
United is literally 26% bigger in ORD than AA. How you call that barely a factor when comparing the two is just some mental gymnastics that I can’t follow.
26% is a significant amount considering where AA historically used to be in ORD market. Don’t take it personal….. AA just shifted their focus smartly to more profitable hubs (DFW and CLT).

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Next. Network planning builds a dream schedule they’d like to fly. Flights ops comes back and says here’s what we can fly without stretching the operations too thin. They have explicit direction from the top to focus on reliability. So what you’re seeing is network plannings’ dream schedule being trimmed. Mostly of course is due to pilot shortage at Eagle.

What you’re not seeing of course is that many former Eagle cities are now seeing bigger mainline planes. Particularly in CLT.
Agree with this point, this is happening across the board at the big 3 though….

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Btw did you miss that UAL cut out 36 markets from EWR all together just a few months ago? Want to guess what the driver for that decision was?
Yes, driver behind that decision was to free up space for summer Europe flying and upgauging regional equipment to mainline equipment and shifting regional connections through IAD. If there is a cut out of EWR, there is a addition to replace that cut in that hub.
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Old 02-26-2023, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
UAL is slot restricted in EWR. So cutting out 36 markets means that United has picked up 36 more profitable routes, like the 2nd daily Naples flight they just added. Also Untied is replacing all RJs into EWR with mainline planes so that’s going to change where those planes fly.
EWR is no longer slot restricted officially anymore. This is SK biggest beef with the FAA especially when they wanted United to cut back flights for runway work. When United did, JetBlue increased flights as a result and then United added back capacity.
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