Anyone WN to UAL?
02-19-2023, 11:23 AM
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2nd to 3rd week of April, our company will report our 1st quarter 2023 results. They have already stated (via CCS msg) that we are “crushing” February.
So, just my opinion but- I feel the company needs to offer us a Honest and Fair AIP BEFORE they release their results.
Once they release the results, and IF we knock its out of the park- they will have an even HARDER time making the majority of this pilot group happy PLUS the odds of getting a deal done before June, or no later than July 4th.. are rapidly diminishing.
Just my opinion..but I’m betting that Tuesday, 11 April.
Motch
So, just my opinion but- I feel the company needs to offer us a Honest and Fair AIP BEFORE they release their results.
Once they release the results, and IF we knock its out of the park- they will have an even HARDER time making the majority of this pilot group happy PLUS the odds of getting a deal done before June, or no later than July 4th.. are rapidly diminishing.
Just my opinion..but I’m betting that Tuesday, 11 April.
Motch
02-19-2023, 11:31 AM
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And again, if you live in Denver.. I get it.
United is your choice.
After that, it starts to become more interesting.
Just mentioning another piece of the puzzle. Kinda like a Strike Authorization Vote that might have to be put in place in May.
All these things add up!
Anyways, back to the 500~
zoom zoom
Motch
02-19-2023, 11:40 AM
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if you want to be a WB CA and are over 40 the boat is about gone.
if you are in your early 30s you are in good shape.
if you just want to have a good career at a good airline and not have to commute to CA you are in reallly good shape.
02-19-2023, 12:18 PM
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can’t answer that question until we know your expectations.
if you want to be a WB CA and are over 40 the boat is about gone.
if you are in your early 30s you are in good shape.
if you just want to have a good career at a good airline and not have to commute to CA you are in reallly good shape.
if you want to be a WB CA and are over 40 the boat is about gone.
if you are in your early 30s you are in good shape.
if you just want to have a good career at a good airline and not have to commute to CA you are in reallly good shape.
02-19-2023, 12:22 PM
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If you just cracked 40 and don’t care to be a WB CA, then you will have a great career…….normal small print of course
02-19-2023, 01:36 PM
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The new sim building will be done in December 2023. 12 more sim bays and the 2 new hire classrooms (week 1 and 2) will hold 150 EACH. Kirby asked the director of training if they could hire and train 150 pilots a week. We are hiring 2,600 pilots this year to bring on 100 planes. In 2024-2029 we bring on 130+ new planes each year so you can do your own math as to how many pilots we have to hire. Plus since at least 100 planes coming between 2024 and 2030 are 787s that’s also going to move people up the food chain faster. Anyone hired today could be at 50% on the seniority list in 10 years and sitting in the left seat of a 787 in 12-15 easy. A 2021 hire told me just with retirements and no growth he will be at the seniority to hold 777 CA in 11 years. That’s NO GROWTH and we cancel all our orders. With unfilled 756 CA slots on the west coast and unfilled 737 CA all over the system, it looks like 25,000 is possible by 2028 easy.
I don’t know what’s going on, but Kirby looks like he wants to crush all the other airlines. He even said in a Captain upgrade class that we would be so big in Denver (900 flights a day) that Southwest would probably COMPLETELY LEAVE Denver.
Anyone who is in Denver that wants to be based there and is flying for Southwest might want to think about coming to United. There is ZERO chance United doesn’t grow like crazy in Denver, especially wiht the hundreds of Pilot-Instructors and Evaluators we will have to hire plus the base expansion. If you’re under 45 its a no-brainer. Especially with 1 year upgrades everywhere.
Good luck!
I don’t know what’s going on, but Kirby looks like he wants to crush all the other airlines. He even said in a Captain upgrade class that we would be so big in Denver (900 flights a day) that Southwest would probably COMPLETELY LEAVE Denver.
Anyone who is in Denver that wants to be based there and is flying for Southwest might want to think about coming to United. There is ZERO chance United doesn’t grow like crazy in Denver, especially wiht the hundreds of Pilot-Instructors and Evaluators we will have to hire plus the base expansion. If you’re under 45 its a no-brainer. Especially with 1 year upgrades everywhere.
Good luck!
"SK says we're going to be the best airline in the history of aviation!"..... only to be presented with the TUMI TA.
"SK says it'll only take about two weeks to get an industry leading deal now that Delta led the way!"...... only to receive the latest negotiating committee update.
It's ok though, even if we lack our peers in compensation and QOL.... we've got a bunch of shiny new electric air taxis and BOOMJETS on the way!
02-19-2023, 01:58 PM
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It's amazing how many people here are still falling for the continual BS that SK blows up everyone's tailpipes. How many lies does he need to tell before people realize the guy is all talk?
"SK says we're going to be the best airline in the history of aviation!"..... only to be presented with the TUMI TA.
"SK says it'll only take about two weeks to get an industry leading deal now that Delta led the way!"...... only to receive the latest negotiating committee update.
It's ok though, even if we lack our peers in compensation and QOL.... we've got a bunch of shiny new electric air taxis and BOOMJETS on the way!
"SK says we're going to be the best airline in the history of aviation!"..... only to be presented with the TUMI TA.
"SK says it'll only take about two weeks to get an industry leading deal now that Delta led the way!"...... only to receive the latest negotiating committee update.
It's ok though, even if we lack our peers in compensation and QOL.... we've got a bunch of shiny new electric air taxis and BOOMJETS on the way!
02-19-2023, 03:04 PM
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2nd to 3rd week of April, our company will report our 1st quarter 2023 results. They have already stated (via CCS msg) that we are “crushing” February.
So, just my opinion but- I feel the company needs to offer us a Honest and Fair AIP BEFORE they release their results.
Once they release the results, and IF we knock its out of the park- they will have an even HARDER time making the majority of this pilot group happy PLUS the odds of getting a deal done before June, or no later than July 4th.. are rapidly diminishing.
Just my opinion..but I’m betting that Tuesday, 11 April.
Motch
So, just my opinion but- I feel the company needs to offer us a Honest and Fair AIP BEFORE they release their results.
Once they release the results, and IF we knock its out of the park- they will have an even HARDER time making the majority of this pilot group happy PLUS the odds of getting a deal done before June, or no later than July 4th.. are rapidly diminishing.
Just my opinion..but I’m betting that Tuesday, 11 April.
Motch
02-19-2023, 03:04 PM
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Not saying our MEC wasn't at fault. They failed completely. The fact remains that SK's boasts about being the premier airline in history has so far been proven to be nothing more than drivel. He's the Baron Munchausen of Airline CEOs. Luckily for us, Delta led the way.
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