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Old 02-17-2023, 01:30 PM
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Here are some links: We AIRBNB and it was great looked at the gates of the Old City out of our window.

https://www.viator.com/tours/Jerusal...d921-6785JERUS

Great walking tour of the Old City and they take you to each quarter, we even got to go on the Temple mount the guide will try and work it in for you if you take the morning one. It was like 230 for 6 people.

Bethlehem, Jericho and Jordan River Full Day Tour great tour they pick you up near the Old City at a Hotel and drive you everywhere you spend all day eating and seeing the west bank sites, great time! about the same in price.
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Don’t leave out Petra as a place to go too. It’s an amazing area.
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Wow. Great advice. Thank you everyone
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Here’s some info:

https://www.gate1travel.com/mediterr...aspx#itinerary
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Since this is the most recent personal travel related thread I could find, I figure i'd ask here.

How difficult is it for a junior employee to have success with non rev travel since United has a seniority based nonrev policy? Someone told me that they've had several instances where at the last minute they've had non-listed employees bump them down during the final hour before boarding. In one case a family of 5 appeared out of the blue. I'd assume that can't be that common, especially for international flights, right?

Also, besides normal ZED fares. Are there any other benefits if you nonrev on Star Alliance carriers?
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Originally Posted by ThatChecks
Since this is the most recent personal travel related thread I could find, I figure i'd ask here.

How difficult is it for a junior employee to have success with non rev travel since United has a seniority based nonrev policy? Someone told me that they've had several instances where at the last minute they've had non-listed employees bump them down during the final hour before boarding. In one case a family of 5 appeared out of the blue. I'd assume that can't be that common, especially for international flights, right?

Also, besides normal ZED fares. Are there any other benefits if you nonrev on Star Alliance carriers?
We can list for business on a ton of star alliance carriers, and there's a handful of Star Alliance carriers that let you bring a friend.

As for the first question - it's just a crapshoot. If there's 100 seats open you're probably fine. If there's 3 seats open it might be tighter. This year has been pretty brutal for nonreving in general.
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Originally Posted by ThatChecks
Since this is the most recent personal travel related thread I could find, I figure i'd ask here.

How difficult is it for a junior employee to have success with non rev travel since United has a seniority based nonrev policy? Someone told me that they've had several instances where at the last minute they've had non-listed employees bump them down during the final hour before boarding. In one case a family of 5 appeared out of the blue. I'd assume that can't be that common, especially for international flights, right?

Also, besides normal ZED fares. Are there any other benefits if you non-rev on Star Alliance carriers?

If it's a vacation that you actually want to make it on and the loads aren't wide open, just buy the tickets. Both rev and non-rev people appear out of the blue all of the time. The only accurate load is the one after the boarding door has closed.
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Originally Posted by ThatChecks
Since this is the most recent personal travel related thread I could find, I figure i'd ask here.

How difficult is it for a junior employee to have success with non rev travel since United has a seniority based nonrev policy? Someone told me that they've had several instances where at the last minute they've had non-listed employees bump them down during the final hour before boarding. In one case a family of 5 appeared out of the blue. I'd assume that can't be that common, especially for international flights, right?

Also, besides normal ZED fares. Are there any other benefits if you nonrev on Star Alliance carriers?
employees/families pop up on the standby list hour/two before takeoff all the time… I’m guessing it’s not to be ugly but because they could be jockeying destinations to ensure they don’t get stuck somewhere. Non-rev isn’t a big problem unless you travel between late May/mid-August, Spring Break, and over Xmas or Thanksgiving. You can non-rev on Lufthansa and Swiss Air in Biz class for a hundred bucks a person… and can get your seat assigned the night prior if the loads are good… they don’t wait until 30 minutes to release seats like we do.
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We can list for business on a ton of star alliance carriers, and there's a handful of Star Alliance carriers that let you bring a friend.

As for the first question - it's just a crapshoot. If there's 100 seats open you're probably fine. If there's 3 seats open it might be tighter. This year has been pretty brutal for nonreving in general.
Business class on Star Alliance sounds really nice! I work for a WO regional, and we have a higher priority on oneworld carriers than normal zed, but we can't list business class.

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If it's a vacation that you actually want to make it on and the loads aren't wide open, just buy the tickets. Both rev and non-rev people appear out of the blue all of the time. The only accurate load is the one after the boarding door has closed.
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employees/families pop up on the standby list hour/two before takeoff all the time… I’m guessing it’s not to be ugly but because they could be jockeying destinations to ensure they don’t get stuck somewhere. Non-rev isn’t a big problem unless you travel between late May/mid-August, Spring Break, and over Xmas or Thanksgiving. You can non-rev on Lufthansa and Swiss Air in Biz class for a hundred bucks a person… and can get your seat assigned the night prior if the loads are good… they don’t wait until 30 minutes to release seats like we do.
Thats fair. I use AA non-rev benefits quite often, and figured out the system pretty well. I only non-rev to off season destinations, and it's worked out pretty well so far. I'd definitely still follow that routine at United too. I was just wondering how much harder it is to get on compared to how it is with AA's check in time policy. There is always a chance of roll overs, and RV standbys popping up, but at least with AA's program, in general I feel like i have a pretty good idea or not whether i'm getting a seat by the time i get to the airport. But United is my end goal, so i was curious how it works here.
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Originally Posted by ThatChecks
Business class on Star Alliance sounds really nice! I work for a WO regional, and we have a higher priority on oneworld carriers than normal zed, but we can't list business class.





Thats fair. I use AA non-rev benefits quite often, and figured out the system pretty well. I only non-rev to off season destinations, and it's worked out pretty well so far. I'd definitely still follow that routine at United too. I was just wondering how much harder it is to get on compared to how it is with AA's check in time policy. There is always a chance of roll overs, and RV standbys popping up, but at least with AA's program, in general I feel like i have a pretty good idea or not whether i'm getting a seat by the time i get to the airport. But United is my end goal, so i was curious how it works here.
seniority is king at United for pretty much everything… the key to success as a junior pilot non revving is picking first flight of the day, don’t fly on Fri/Sun, and never over a big holiday and/or summer… rest of the time internationally you’ll get Polaris FC or Premium plus…
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