OGG nose dive...woah!
02-13-2023, 01:45 PM
#51
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First off… does the 777 have a G-meter? Did they even know they over-stressed it?
Do any of us know that they didn’t call MX and get a recommendation to continue?
I haven’t seen any details, but did they overspeed by 10kts, or 100kts?
Lets not assign pretty sinister motives with only the bare bone details.
02-13-2023, 01:54 PM
#52
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This crew almost killed a couple of hundred people. I don't know about you, but every single person I have discussed this with said that they would have diverted/ air turn back. 4.5 hours is a long time to fly after almost killing yourself and everyone else onboard. As far as the G issue. It is definitely not the driving factor here. A dive of better than 8000 fpm would shake anyone up. It would be dam near impossible to keep your attention to the task at hand after experiencing a near death experience.
I don't have an agenda here sir. I am merely adding my .02 to the conversation. This was a monumental screw up and hopefully we can all learn from it. Hopefully it won't be swept under the rug by UAL.
02-13-2023, 01:57 PM
#53
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Originally Posted by Nordhavn;[url=tel:3591483
3591483[/url]]Sir,
This crew almost killed a couple of hundred people. I don't know about you, but every single person I have discussed this with said that they would have diverted/ air turn back. 4.5 hours is a long time to fly after almost killing yourself and everyone else onboard. As far as the G issue. It is definitely not the driving factor here. A dive of better than 8000 fpm would shake anyone up. It would be dam near impossible to keep your attention to the task at hand after experiencing a near death experience.
I don't have an agenda here sir. I am merely adding my .02 to the conversation. This was a monumental screw up and hopefully we can all learn from it. Hopefully it won't be swept under the rug by UAL.
This crew almost killed a couple of hundred people. I don't know about you, but every single person I have discussed this with said that they would have diverted/ air turn back. 4.5 hours is a long time to fly after almost killing yourself and everyone else onboard. As far as the G issue. It is definitely not the driving factor here. A dive of better than 8000 fpm would shake anyone up. It would be dam near impossible to keep your attention to the task at hand after experiencing a near death experience.
I don't have an agenda here sir. I am merely adding my .02 to the conversation. This was a monumental screw up and hopefully we can all learn from it. Hopefully it won't be swept under the rug by UAL.
so far you have done nothing but level unfounded accusations. You want to learn from this and that’s great but you will never learn a damn thing if you don’t keep an open mind. The hardest pilots I have ever trained are those that already have an opinion.
02-13-2023, 02:02 PM
#54
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Now he’s a conspiracy theorist. Perfect way to add credibility to his assumptions….👍🏻
02-13-2023, 02:07 PM
#57
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What happened here? Any word yet from the school house?
https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-s...22-close-call/
https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-s...22-close-call/
02-13-2023, 02:08 PM
#58
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neither one of those divisions would necessarily reach out to the crew to notify them.
02-13-2023, 02:12 PM
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Thanks, not that 2.7 G wouldn’t be felt, but I could totally see that a crew wouldn’t write up that specific event if they have no way of knowing they did.
02-13-2023, 02:18 PM
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I doubt it was a “nose dive” too. Not enough altitude to make that happen. This incident sounds very similar to the 767 one in LHR.
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