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Old 02-14-2023, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wankel7
I'm amazed none of the passengers brought this to light after it happened. Did UA make them sign something and get paid?
they were too busy cleaning out their underwear and then praying nothing else happened over the next 5 hours.
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Old 02-14-2023, 03:49 PM
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I'm amazed none of the passengers brought this to light after it happened. Did UA make them sign something and get paid?
They likely had no clue how serious it was.
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
They likely had no clue how serious it was.

There are some people on this thread that think this was no big deal and that this happens all the time. Maybe it is because they are just being supportive of their employer/brothers but in my view this was very close to a crash and a very big deal.
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Old 02-14-2023, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nordhavn;[url=tel:3592108
3592108[/url]]There are some people on this thread that think this was no big deal and that this happens all the time. Maybe it is because they are just being supportive of their employer/brothers but in my view this was very close to a crash and a very big deal.
there is no one on this thread that doesn’t see this a a significant event. We just aren’t engaging in YOUR made up facts and over exaggerations.
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Originally Posted by Nordhavn
There are some people on this thread that think this was no big deal and that this happens all the time. Maybe it is because they are just being supportive of their employer/brothers but in my view this was very close to a crash and a very big deal.
No there are many that see this as a very significant event but also agree that returning to OGG wasn't necessary either. Just because they aren't screaming "omg why didn't they divert" that doesn't mean they don't think it was a significant event.
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Old 02-14-2023, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
No there are many that see this as a very significant event but also agree that returning to OGG wasn't necessary either. Just because they aren't screaming "omg why didn't they divert" that doesn't mean they don't think it was a significant event.
Unless you are on fire, there is really never a reason to return to OGG in a 777. By the time you finish everything you need for a divert, HNL or KOA are much better options, you could easily be there by that time instead of a gusty short runway at OGG, day or especially at night.

If it was me, the options would have been continue to destination, or divert to HNL. It does seem we, here on APC, don't have all the info, so really can't pass judgement on their decision.
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Old 02-14-2023, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nordhavn
There are some people on this thread that think this was no big deal and that this happens all the time. Maybe it is because they are just being supportive of their employer/brothers but in my view this was very close to a crash and a very big deal.
So what happens if you get into an enroute stall? Push roll thrust stabilize, the plane is recovered, now what? Immediately divert or talk about the situation, weigh your options and decide on the best course of action?
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Old 02-14-2023, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Interesting, a very expensive retrofit to datalink that kind of data real time both in aircraft and ground equipment. Large bandwidth needed. United might be the only airline to have done that. Eliminates the need however for FOQA recorders and mechanics to periodically pull that data from the airframes. Most airlines now do have the ability to downlink engine reports ect.. United is way ahead of everyone in having the data you mention. To bad MH17 was not equipped.
Not a retrofit, original equipment. And you are correct that MH17 wasn’t similarly equipped.

I can’t tell you exactly what parameters are being linked in flight but it’s a fair amount of information. I’ve had the company message us about a potential engine problem out over the South Pacific before it was giving us an indication on board.
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Old 02-14-2023, 06:25 PM
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To bad MH17 was not equipped.
You mean MH370? (The missing one). Not sure what data it would’ve added to an SA-11 impact (MH17)?
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Old 02-14-2023, 08:25 PM
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Talking head on CNN now called it a windshear event.
Didn’t hear any other details as I was busy taking a dump in the galley.
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