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Old 01-13-2023, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by EwrRocks
Sure, if you like months of 12 days off working all 2000-0200 or 0400-1000 shifts on weekends as many that are junior do. Once you get Senior you get better schedules but then you would make more $ on the line, with more days off and better working hours.

This is why there has been an exodus leaving in last year or 2, and without a new contract in next couple of months I expect that exodus to continue or even grow.

I view TK as a great spot for junior pilots in DEN who like to teach, but time will tell. If you’re a senior FO who commutes, I don’t personally understand the decision, but maybe I will when I’m senior.
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Old 01-13-2023, 02:08 PM
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I view TK as a great spot for junior pilots in DEN who like to teach, but time will tell. If you’re a senior FO who commutes, I don’t personally understand the decision, but maybe I will when I’m senior.
What pay rate would a FO fresh off probation be paid at for TK work?
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Old 01-13-2023, 02:22 PM
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What pay rate would a FO fresh off probation be paid at for TK work?
Currently, 2nd year widebody pay, 90 hours guarantee, $810 /mo override.

Based on being senior to the most junior widebody FO in this case.
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Old 01-13-2023, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sobo
Currently, 2nd year widebody pay, 90 hours guarantee, $810 /mo override.

Based on being senior to the most junior widebody FO in this case.
Not bad, but it does sound like you earn every penny. Hopefully that's increased soon in the new contract
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I personally never understood the “you can make much more money on the line”. You absolutely could make more money on the line, but you’re gonna work for it. By my calculations, I would have to work an 80 hour line as a 737 captain to make the same amount as an instructor. Plus if I pick up some overtime, it makes the difference even smaller.
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Old 01-13-2023, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sobo
Currently, 2nd year widebody pay, 90 hours guarantee, $810 /mo override.

Based on being senior to the most junior widebody FO in this case.
Override increases to $1250 once you achieve higher quals.
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Old 01-13-2023, 04:23 PM
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Aside from potentially "having to work harder" is there any reason a junior FO who lives 15 minutes from TK shouldn't try and become an instructor?
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Old 01-13-2023, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Broncofan
I personally never understood the “you can make much more money on the line”. You absolutely could make more money on the line, but you’re gonna work for it. By my calculations, I would have to work an 80 hour line as a 737 captain to make the same amount as an instructor. Plus if I pick up some overtime, it makes the difference even smaller.
The pilot 1 number jr to me in base February:

15 days off
89:54 line
306:55 TAFB
$26,764 base + $814 PD = $27,578

TK in February:

13 days off
90:00 line
$1285 override
$22,292 base + $1285 OR = $23,292

Math says $4,286 more in February on the line then in TK, and with 2 more days off. That’s TK making more than $51,000 less per year with 15-20 days off less per year. Sure you can pick up OT right now at TK, if you did the max of 3 OT you would then match the $ of the 15 day off line, but would then only have 10 days off vs 15.
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Originally Posted by EwrRocks
The pilot 1 number jr to me in base February:

15 days off
89:54 line
306:55 TAFB
$26,764 base + $814 PD = $27,578

TK in February:

13 days off
90:00 line
$1285 override
$22,292 base + $1285 OR = $23,292

Math says $4,286 more in February on the line than in TK, and with 2 more days off. That’s TK making more than $51,000 less per year with 15-20 days off less per year. Sure you can pick up OT right now at TK, if you did the max of 3 OT you would then match the $ of the 15 day off line, but would then only have 10 days off vs 15.
Yeah I agree, again you CAN do better on the line. However if you are not a commuter, I am either home every day for drop off or pick up for the kids. I make about as much as an 80 hour line captain. Even though I am “working” more days, I have way more quality time at home with that family. I’ll go ski a half day in the mountains and come back for a 1600 for my event.
if your local (and close) it’s completely worth it if you like instructing. I would never understand commuting to it though.
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If you like denver, have small kids, and/or need to be home every night then TK is a great gig.
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