Delta Profit Goal $5 Billion
01-05-2023, 07:09 AM
#21
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I appreciate the sentiment.
I've run for SecTreas at my local council a few times and Lost. It is what it is...
My goal has always been, and will always be-
To be a Professional Airline Pilot! But also figured that living local in EWR/NYC, I'd be more willing and able to serve here.
I feel that those MEC positions are suited for those with a bit more "political sense" than me.. lol
I'm (probably!) too much of a Loud Mouth. I do write that with pride as a New Yorker, German American AND former Enlisted guy~
I truly believe we have a vast pilot group that should have enough talent that a few pilots can step up for a few years and help out.. and then, rinse and repeat! (while building on the past).
Our union probably hit a low point back in July.. and the changes in place do take some time to fix. Yes, (in my opinion) they dropped the ball last month with the rush to vote for a new MEC Chair. Kinda what happens when you rush. I do hope they follow through with an investigation on who "leaked" that info out to a blogger. Not hard to figure out.
But we are righting the ship, just takes some time.
Company has 3 months to come together with our NC and bang out a new UPA.
Let's see what they do!
Always
Motch
01-05-2023, 07:26 AM
#22
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I guess I’m a little confused why you keep hitting on “Delta minus a dollar”- as though that’s some kind of aiming point. Personally, I’m not really interested in Delta’s rates as my standard. (I’m even less worried about my “responsibility” to DAL pilots to activate their snap-up.) I don’t know about you, but I’m losing money to inflation- not to Delta- so I care about my compensation keeping up with the former much more than the latter.
To the larger point that rates are not synonymous with total compensation- yes, of course. We’d all jump at a 0% increase & 200 hour monthly guarantee. But I’m wary of a few mediocre reserve & reflow gains being used as an excuse for why our rates can’t keep up with inflation. I don’t see any reason why we can’t beat inflation and improve the work rules, so the contract stuff has to equal real $$$ in my pocket in order to justify a smaller percentage increase. (I.e., 10% and no field standby ain’t gonna cut it.)
To the larger point that rates are not synonymous with total compensation- yes, of course. We’d all jump at a 0% increase & 200 hour monthly guarantee. But I’m wary of a few mediocre reserve & reflow gains being used as an excuse for why our rates can’t keep up with inflation. I don’t see any reason why we can’t beat inflation and improve the work rules, so the contract stuff has to equal real $$$ in my pocket in order to justify a smaller percentage increase. (I.e., 10% and no field standby ain’t gonna cut it.)
What would a senior WB CA make if we took 1980s top rates and adjusted them forward based on inflation alone? A number of years ago I heard it was about $700k.... it's got to be over $1 million a year now! Or $999k for those who like to see big numbers.
Inflation on a fixed-rate contract ignores the realities of an economic system predicated upon expansion, and will always leave us behind.
We have lost more to inflation than can be fathomed.
01-05-2023, 07:40 AM
#23
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This is a point that I don't hear made often enough...
What would a senior WB CA make if we took 1980s top rates and adjusted them forward based on inflation alone? A number of years ago I heard it was about $700k.... it's got to be over $1 million a year now! Or $999k for those who like to see big numbers.
Inflation on a fixed-rate contract ignores the realities of an economic system predicated upon expansion, and will always leave us behind.
We have lost more to inflation than can be fathomed.
What would a senior WB CA make if we took 1980s top rates and adjusted them forward based on inflation alone? A number of years ago I heard it was about $700k.... it's got to be over $1 million a year now! Or $999k for those who like to see big numbers.
Inflation on a fixed-rate contract ignores the realities of an economic system predicated upon expansion, and will always leave us behind.
We have lost more to inflation than can be fathomed.
Most people quote inflation through CPI leading to those numbers above, but with how our pay scales translate into a relatively high annual income, you can't apply them in the same manner. I'm not saying rates shouldn't increase because they should, but inflation rates published by the BLS isn't a measure that would makes sense. CPI isn't intended as a purchasing power barometer applied to large salaries.
01-06-2023, 07:23 AM
#24
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Most people quote inflation through CPI leading to those numbers above, but with how our pay scales translate into a relatively high annual income, you can't apply them in the same manner. I'm not saying rates shouldn't increase because they should, but inflation rates published by the BLS isn't a measure that would makes sense. CPI isn't intended as a purchasing power barometer applied to large salaries.
In the 80's the main (sometimes only) family TV cost the equivalent of a small compact car.
The lists go on, so yes there is inflation on commodities, but overall, many high value items have actually gotten much cheaper due to globalization of labor and production.
01-06-2023, 07:39 AM
#25
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Look at how many things that provide a decent QOL have come down in price.
In the 80's the main (sometimes only) family TV cost the equivalent of a small compact car.
The lists go on, so yes there is inflation on commodities, but overall, many high value items have actually gotten much cheaper due to globalization of labor and production.
In the 80's the main (sometimes only) family TV cost the equivalent of a small compact car.
The lists go on, so yes there is inflation on commodities, but overall, many high value items have actually gotten much cheaper due to globalization of labor and production.
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