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12-19-2022, 02:21 PM

#61

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Originally Posted by dera

Because Mesa does not have enough pilots to fly all their ERJs. They do have pilots to fly 900's who currently fly for Eagle but after that ends, they will start flying for UAX.

And they can’t re-train them in 3-4 months? How many 170/175’s are we parking so the dumpster fire can spend a few less bucks on training?

I’m sure our passengers are going to love flying around in a clapped out -900 with an American Airlines interior and the United logo duct taped over the AA paint.

12-19-2022, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 01110011

I don't know the numbers. Don't care that much, not my fish to fry. Someone mentioned 20.

But it does sound like Kirby cares more about Mesa saving some money and him getting more regional lift, than passenger experience.

12-19-2022, 02:23 PM

#63

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They can’t train 20 airframes worth of -900 pilots in 3 months.

what a disaster.

12-19-2022, 02:25 PM

#64

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Originally Posted by 01110011

They can’t train 20 airframes worth of -900 pilots in 3 months.

what a disaster.

Can't? Or don't want to pay?

Probably bit of both. They already have long delays in new hire training. Adding few hundred transitions would totally jam them up. And with the amount of pilots they are losing, it likely would not be sustainable.

12-19-2022, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dera

But it does sound like Kirby cares more about Mesa saving some money and him getting more regional lift, than passenger experience.

Agree with you there. He’s losing any faith the employees had left in him. He preaches customer experience and puts us through a Koolaid class when we go through training but when push comes to shove he’ll put the cheapest product he can get out there for our customers because he’s a cheapskate at heart.

12-19-2022, 02:35 PM

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The problem wouldn't 20 airframes need 100 crews need 200 training events. The problem would be the displacements.

12-19-2022, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dera

Watch the video of Kirby's presentation. No scope issues. 1:1 trade from ERJs to 900's.

Do you have a link for this presentation. I need a good laugh. I’ll be making some popcorn 🍿.

12-19-2022, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN

Do you have a link for this presentation. I need a good laugh. I’ll be making some popcorn 🍿.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=de...ature=youtu.be

12-19-2022, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN

Do you have a link for this presentation. I need a good laugh. I’ll be making some popcorn 🍿.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61aUqcgSrqc

12-19-2022, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dera

Watch the video of Kirby's presentation. No scope issues. 1:1 trade from ERJs to 900's.

UAL pilot scope won't allow 900's due to their weight. The crj550 is a crj700 with 50 seats that is usually weight restricted by our cap to mid 40 passengers. You would have to pull even more physical seats out of a 900 and recertify under the weight cap. This isn't happening.