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Old 12-17-2022, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gomissedagain
Ok I hear you. But SK has been paying the Mesa pilots salaries. JO just made a huge announcement about all of Mesa flying and planes will be exclusive to UA. Do you really think JO sent that email out without SK blessing? Do you really think he’s going to bite the hand that feeds him? Do you really think that email was just to stop bleeding before a BK? I’m not just directing these questions to you but everyone in this thread. There has to be more to this unfolding situation that we don’t know. The flying has to be covered and we aren’t talking about a 12-18 month transition this is 3 months out. UA can’t afford to let Mesa go BK and lose all that lift 3 months from now.
I think a lot of what you're insinuating is wishful thinking for Mesa. United and SK have a house to get in order before worrying about Mesa. I have no idea what they're brewing up, but there won't be cooperation from UA ALPA until we have an industry leading contract. We can remove those cards from the deck.
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Old 12-17-2022, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by johnwick
There is absolutely no way UAL is gonna “buy” Mesa and staple their pilots to our list. Doesn’t work that way. The UPA has very specific rules on such a proposal.
And UA ALPA will not cooperate. Period.
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Old 12-17-2022, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO
UAL will let Mesa go bankrupt and pull their 175’s and give them to CommuteAir or SkyWest to operate. They will put mainline on the routes while those two regionals spool up pilots and instead of (3) 50-seaters daily departures from like ORD-DBQ, they will do one daily flight with a 737/A329 from ORD-DBQ moving the same amount of passengers with mainline Pilots.
i agree that UA would let Mesa enter BK and squeeze whatever juice than can get while taking delivery of a bunch of new NBs to replace the feed.
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Old 12-17-2022, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
i agree that UA would let Mesa enter BK and squeeze whatever juice than can get while taking delivery of a bunch of new NBs to replace the feed.
SK will probably have the PR Department issue a press release something along the lines of “We are aware of Mesa’s situation and are reviewing the terms of a POSSIBLE deal”. That will keep the Mesa employees there (not quitting and jumping ship) thru the Holidays to keep the bad press away from Holiday cancellations. Then after Jan 2, 2023 when the holiday traffic slows down (like it always does in Jan/Feb) then UAL will publicly shoot down the deal.
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Old 12-17-2022, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
And UA ALPA will not cooperate. Period.
They already tried to sell us out on scope with Tumi, I don’t think it’s likely but UA ALPA has already surprised me once this year 🙄.
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Old 12-17-2022, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO
UAL will let Mesa go bankrupt and pull their 175’s and give them to CommuteAir or SkyWest to operate. They will put mainline on the routes while those two regionals spool up pilots and instead of (3) 50-seaters daily departures from like ORD-DBQ, they will do one daily flight with a 737/A320 from ORD-DBQ moving the same amount of passengers with mainline Pilots.
Imagine getting to mainline and flying ORD-BMI 3x a day. God, just axe those cities and make people drive.
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Old 12-17-2022, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ClownDown
Imagine getting to mainline and flying ORD-DBQ 3x a day. God, just axe those cities and make people drive.
It would only be once a day on the mainline NB. 3 times on a regional equals about 150 passengers. Replace it with a once daily flight on a NB moves the same amount of passengers (give or take a few).
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Old 12-17-2022, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO
It would only be once a day on the mainline NB. 3 times on a regional equals about 150 passengers. Replace it with a once daily flight on a NB moves the same amount of passengers (give or take a few).
Still. I need some good incentive $$$$$ to spend 20 hours in BMI versus STT.
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Old 12-17-2022, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ClownDown
Still. I need some good incentive $$$$$ to spend 20 hours in BMI versus STT.
Just do the BMI turn first, then off to STT 😂😂😂
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Old 12-17-2022, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO
Just do the BMI turn first, then off to STT 😂😂😂
Haha. Ok, fair point
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