Originally Posted by TwoDaysBehind

I didn't know, thanks for letting me know! That's a very, very good thing, and I can breathe easier already.

Originally Posted by 01110011

Completely agree on both counts.

I flew with a couple of guys who were totally fine with it during TA1 because “it’ll make my commute easier” and “it’s a good product”. 🙄

Originally Posted by TwoDaysBehind

It would be a great product. It could be so great that the next 10-20 years are dominated by it, the way the previous 20 years had the majority of us working for **** wages and tip toeing around ****ty contracts that got violated anyway, all in the hope of being the lucky pilot who escaped the regionals that weren't supposed to be but became anyway.

We wasted the best years of our lives at regionals due to scope relief. Our only graceful recourse is to make sure it doesn't happen to another generation, our children, as well.

Originally Posted by TwoDaysBehind

It would be a great product. It could be so great that the next 10-20 years are dominated by it, the way the previous 20 years had the majority of us working for **** wages and tip toeing around ****ty contracts that got violated anyway, all in the hope of being the lucky pilot who escaped the regionals that weren't supposed to be but became anyway.

We wasted the best years of our lives at regionals due to scope relief. Our only graceful recourse is to make sure it doesn't happen to another generation, our children, as well.

Originally Posted by TwoDaysBehind

It would be a great product. It could be so great that the next 10-20 years are dominated by it, the way the previous 20 years had the majority of us working for **** wages and tip toeing around ****ty contracts that got violated anyway, all in the hope of being the lucky pilot who escaped the regionals that weren't supposed to be but became anyway.

We wasted the best years of our lives at regionals due to scope relief. Our only graceful recourse is to make sure it doesn't happen to another generation, our children, as well.

Originally Posted by TFAYD

not sure if that’s what they are planning but it certainly is an option

Originally Posted by pangolin

Mesas bad reputation is from the AA side. Because AA is terrible. The UA side of mesa is a well oiled machine because of a cooperative partner that has a working infrastructure. Something AA is sorely lacking. If UA stopped lending AA deice trucks, tugs and air start carts then AA would go out of business.

Originally Posted by TFAYD

. They will operate 200 with 30 seats.

Originally Posted by TwoDaysBehind

I'll throw in my nightmare... Mesa could operate the CRJ-550, it's designed to be a scope buster. Gojet currently have 30-35 airplanes idle in storage due to self-induced staffing shortage (they paid the lowest wages and treat people like disposable diapers). Gojet have about 1 year of exclusivity left of their original 5-year contract, but without the ability to staff their flying, Gojet/TB will cooperate and give away the airplanes they can't staff.

United tried to sneak in scope relief in TA1, easing the weight restriction for 50-seat airplanes. As I've been screaming for some time, increasing the takeoff weight of the CRJ-550 from 65 to just 68 or 69,000 will add an hour of range and make the CRJ-550 the perfect scope buster for longer routes.

It is vitally incumbent on ALPA to not give an inch (or pound) of relief for the CRJ-550 weight limit. UA can get their first class (long range) feed with unlimited scope if the CRJ-550 is allowed MTOW relief.

The FAA total passenger weight increased by 500-750 lbs. United asked the union for 4,000 lbs in scope relief. And not one warning, angry memo or alert went off at ALPA, they ratified it for a vote. Which will give away career progression for UA pilots for the next decade.