Here Come The -900s
12-28-2022, 07:26 AM
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The idea is that no one currently on property would be flying said trips unless they intentionally bid down to fly them. It would be added flying that would require additional pilots- likely those same pilots who are currently flying those trips at the regionals. So it brings more pilots to the airline- getting them on the seniority list quicker & providing additional security for those already here- while improving the integrity & fidelity of our short-range flying for our customers. So it’s like a win/win/win/win. (Though I think the customers would much rather an ERJ than a CRJ, FWIW)
12-28-2022, 08:15 AM
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Same 117 limits apply to RJs and airbus/Boeing… 8 leg days aren’t a thing and haven’t been in a looooong time.
12-28-2022, 09:18 AM
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The idea is that no one currently on property would be flying said trips unless they intentionally bid down to fly them. It would be added flying that would require additional pilots- likely those same pilots who are currently flying those trips at the regionals. So it brings more pilots to the airline- getting them on the seniority list quicker & providing additional security for those already here- while improving the integrity & fidelity of our short-range flying for our customers. So it’s like a win/win/win/win. (Though I think the customers would much rather an ERJ than a CRJ, FWIW)
12-29-2022, 08:17 AM
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And they could put about 5 extra seats in them, too. 81 vs 76.
Not sure how they'd staff them, though. F/Os would bid up at the first opportunity due to the difference in year 2 pay and 737 and 320 Captain bids already go unfilled.
Not sure how they'd staff them, though. F/Os would bid up at the first opportunity due to the difference in year 2 pay and 737 and 320 Captain bids already go unfilled.
12-29-2022, 01:20 PM
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The solution is to create a fence for folks coming from the street with no 121/Turbine/Military time or Aviate students. Those folks would go straight to the ERJ fleet and seat lock them there for a certain amount of time for the FO side. For the left seat, the company needs to create a incentive to fill Captain and LCA slots for the fleet.
12-29-2022, 03:22 PM
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The solution is to create a fence for folks coming from the street with no 121/Turbine/Military time or Aviate students. Those folks would go straight to the ERJ fleet and seat lock them there for a certain amount of time for the FO side. For the left seat, the company needs to create a incentive to fill Captain and LCA slots for the fleet.
12-29-2022, 09:43 PM
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It wouldn’t even be that hard. The rates would make the left seat a junior fleet, but plenty of people would bid it to make more than a NB FO. It’s just a seniority puzzle. At the bottom, you will always have the same problem we do today. For the <70% relative seniority, it wouldn’t matter.
12-29-2022, 10:09 PM
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It would be the same RJ flying that is done by regionals but at a fair wage and maybe some better work rules - but that is debatable
12-29-2022, 10:39 PM
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I’d happily upgrade into a 175 over right seat on a NB. A -200, not so much.
12-29-2022, 11:22 PM
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All RJ flying is not created equal. Your -200/145 crews and your 170/175 crews are doing on average very different flying. The 170/175 stuff is pretty close to what the bus does. They’re doing BZN out of ORD or CMH out of DEN which leads to something approaching a humane schedule. Not quite the same meat grinder as the 200 ORD-MKE-ORD-IND-ORD-PIA days.
I’d happily upgrade into a 175 over right seat on a NB. A -200, not so much.
I’d happily upgrade into a 175 over right seat on a NB. A -200, not so much.
Some folks may like that or split duty trips over red eyes - especially if the money is right.
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