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Old 12-22-2022, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Spesiellsporing
The one person who views Delta as a template is Kirby. It's a process to minimize our contract after all the excuses for not negotiating have been exhausted. A template implies the same. Let's change the narrative and think of Delta as a baseline that we need to tailor to our contract. A baseline that requires improvement, if we have the will.
I don't think we have the will. Step back and look at this pilot group... We have no idea what we want but bleat loudly when something happens that we don't like - all the while having no idea why we keep coming up short.

We all heard the uproar and saw the fainting when Swindells became MC. Petitions, letters, countless social media posts, emails, calls, etc... Meanwhile EWR barely broke 50% participation in their LEC officer elections!! Seriously?! If that's not bad enough, we actually had 6% vote YES on a TA the even management said wasn't good enough.

Sorry, but this pilot group doesn't have the will.
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Old 12-22-2022, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp
Can you just shift your focus to happy hour mixers at The Villages? You are retired James. Congrats and enjoy!
Mako has 30 plus years in the industry witnessing contracts, tactics, and bankruptcies. Yet unless he beats to your collective drum you want to silence him? One would think the best decisions are made when we have all the available information. How does that funny quote go about those who do not remember the past go?

Stay right here Shaft. Even if a few listen to your wisdom, it's worth the keystrokes.
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Old 12-22-2022, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
I don't think we have the will. Step back and look at this pilot group... We have no idea what we want but bleat loudly when something happens that we don't like - all the while having no idea why we keep coming up short.

We all heard the uproar and saw the fainting when Swindells became MC. Petitions, letters, countless social media posts, emails, calls, etc... Meanwhile EWR barely broke 50% participation in their LEC officer elections!! Seriously?! If that's not bad enough, we actually had 6% vote YES on a TA the even management said wasn't good enough.

Sorry, but this pilot group doesn't have the will.
I don't disagree.
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Old 12-22-2022, 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp
Zero argument here. I’ll take Wendy Morse or even AW at this point. Like Cliff Boot said “Fix it!”
The UAL MEC will fix it. They and all of us have undoubtedly learned some important lessons. Fortunately, the Toddlers have lost control the MEC and ALPA Int'l as of 1/1/23.
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Old 12-22-2022, 05:48 AM
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Wendy Morse? Dang buddy, do you not remember what it was like last time she was Master Chairman? Not a damned thing got done! Do NOT sign me up for more of that carnival side show. 🤡

Jerry Leber seems to be Neil Swindells without all the moronic baggage - maybe he should show us all how smart he keeps telling us he is. Mount on up there Jerry! Time to walk the walk.
Yeah, good times, weren’t they? Especially for the double furloughees completely forgotten by Wendy’s regime. And let’s not forget what good buddies Jerry and Wendy and Glenn Tilton are. Heck, the two of them probably got an invite to Glenn’s Chicago holiday party this year!!
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Old 12-22-2022, 05:57 AM
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This hit job by the 'Insler wing' of our union, and the subsequent dogpiling by so many, has caused me to do some self reflection. My advocacy for leveling the seniority slope and spreading the wealth more is gone. This group can't get out of its own way.
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Old 12-22-2022, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
This hit job by the 'Insler wing' of our union, and the subsequent dogpiling by so many, has caused me to do some self reflection. My advocacy for leveling the seniority slope and spreading the wealth more is gone. This group can't get out of its own way.
While frustrating, all we can do is try to leave this place better than we found it. I'm starting to think with our time left that's highly improbable.
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Old 12-22-2022, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
Yeah, good times, weren’t they? Especially for the double furloughees completely forgotten by Wendy’s regime. And let’s not forget what good buddies Jerry and Wendy and Glenn Tilton are. Heck, the two of them probably got an invite to Glenn’s Chicago holiday party this year!!

What an idiotic post. That photo shows ZERO, ZILCH, NADA. It’s them being polite as they wait to speak before Congress. Nucflash, are you really this misinformed? Friends with Glenn? Dude, YOU are exactly what’s wrong with our union, and your post just keeps fanning the flames of lies and deceit. Take a hard look in the mirror and try to figure out why you(and those who spout this crap) keep trying to sidetrack our collective best interest.

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Old 12-22-2022, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
What an idiotic post. That photo shows ZERO, ZILCH, NADA. It’s them being polite as they wait to speak before Congress. Nucflash, are you really this misinformed? Friends with Glenn? Dude, YOU are exactly what’s wrong with our union, and your post just keeps fanning the flames of lies and deceit. Take a hard look in the mirror and try to figure out why you(and those who spout this crap) keep trying to sidetrack out collective best interest.
GD95, Thanks. These Toddlers remind me of the line, "I'll stop telling the truth about you when you stop lying about me."
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Old 12-22-2022, 07:44 AM
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The UAL MEC will fix it. They and all of us have undoubtedly learned some important lessons. Fortunately, the Toddlers have lost control the MEC and ALPA Int'l as of 1/1/23.
Well giddyup and prove it cowboy! GET ON UP THERE! I'll tell ya one thing though, running around calling everyone names like "Toddlers" ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow..."so you know it's gonna be"...NOT alright if you guys can't learn to play better with the other cowpies in the cowpen. The pilots are sick and tired of that kind of hoo haa and they deserve a helluva lot better. I mean it buddy, GET ON UP ON THAT HORSE, but be better. DO BETTER. We all need it.

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