New Master Chair will be
12-20-2022, 12:40 PM
#131
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH;[url=tel:3556132
3556132[/url]]“Someone” turned it in to HR previously and HR didn’t find anything actionable with the posts so now he went to a blogger to make it public. AC would be proud. I’m expecting him to join his buddy Jim B in management next.
12-21-2022, 10:31 AM
#132
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This was forwarded to me
I removed the email addresses of the reps. MODS IS THAT ALLOWED?
ALL of these reps that voted yes had seen EVERYTHING that was out there on NS.
It's not too. late to change course!
RE: CAPT. SWINDELLS ELECTION TO MEC CHAIR
****** URGENT ACTION********
Please copy/paste this letter to send and email to your LEC representatives if you agree (names and emails below).
Feel free to edit or personalize it based on your own opinion:
No matter how talented Capt. Swindells has been with union work, there should be ZERO TOLERANCE for racism, antisemitism, and, not to mention, the sexist and bigoted remarks he has made about female and LGBTQ pilots. His true colors are there, in the open for the public to see, and I feel ashamed that this is the person that represents us. You are setting a precedent by supporting his election that this type of behavior cannot only go unpunished, but also be rewarded - and that is the governing issue here.
You wouldn’t expect United to hire a new pilot after having a history of making racist and vulgar remarks, as they do not adhere to the principles of our airline, and they definitely do not adhere to the ALPA Code Of Ethics. Furthermore, this MEC Chair position sit on the United Airlines BOD and is expected to comply with the airline's CORE4 philosophy and Mission Statement. I ask you, why would we be okay with a Master Chairman who is so blatantly disrespectful to people who do not share his views?
I am respectfully asking for the immediate resignation of Neil Swindells as the MEC Chairman.
In Unity, (your name)
__________________________________________
COUNCIL 5 (2 REPS VOTED IN FAVOR)
COUNCIL 11 (2 REPS VOTED IN FAVOR)
AW FO REP SECONDING SPEECH
COUNCIL 12 (2 REPS VOTED IN FAVOR)
WM ALPA 1st VP ELECT Nominated!
COUNCIL 33 (2 REPS VOTED IN FAVOR)
COUNCIL 34
COUNCIL 57
COUNCIL 93
COUNCIL 171
COUNCIL 172
COUNCIL 173 (2 REPS VOTED IN FAVOR)
I removed the email addresses of the reps. MODS IS THAT ALLOWED?
ALL of these reps that voted yes had seen EVERYTHING that was out there on NS.
It's not too. late to change course!
RE: CAPT. SWINDELLS ELECTION TO MEC CHAIR
****** URGENT ACTION********
Please copy/paste this letter to send and email to your LEC representatives if you agree (names and emails below).
Feel free to edit or personalize it based on your own opinion:
No matter how talented Capt. Swindells has been with union work, there should be ZERO TOLERANCE for racism, antisemitism, and, not to mention, the sexist and bigoted remarks he has made about female and LGBTQ pilots. His true colors are there, in the open for the public to see, and I feel ashamed that this is the person that represents us. You are setting a precedent by supporting his election that this type of behavior cannot only go unpunished, but also be rewarded - and that is the governing issue here.
You wouldn’t expect United to hire a new pilot after having a history of making racist and vulgar remarks, as they do not adhere to the principles of our airline, and they definitely do not adhere to the ALPA Code Of Ethics. Furthermore, this MEC Chair position sit on the United Airlines BOD and is expected to comply with the airline's CORE4 philosophy and Mission Statement. I ask you, why would we be okay with a Master Chairman who is so blatantly disrespectful to people who do not share his views?
I am respectfully asking for the immediate resignation of Neil Swindells as the MEC Chairman.
In Unity, (your name)
__________________________________________
COUNCIL 5 (2 REPS VOTED IN FAVOR)
COUNCIL 11 (2 REPS VOTED IN FAVOR)
AW FO REP SECONDING SPEECH
COUNCIL 12 (2 REPS VOTED IN FAVOR)
WM ALPA 1st VP ELECT Nominated!
COUNCIL 33 (2 REPS VOTED IN FAVOR)
COUNCIL 34
COUNCIL 57
COUNCIL 93
COUNCIL 171
COUNCIL 172
COUNCIL 173 (2 REPS VOTED IN FAVOR)
12-21-2022, 11:04 AM
#133
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12-21-2022, 11:26 AM
#134
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“Sorry if I offended anyone” is not the same as “what I said was wrong, and I fully support the diverse pilot group here at United” or “it is never ok to refer to fellow pilots as (insert racial slurs here)”.
12-21-2022, 11:32 AM
#135
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Position: 756 left
Posts: 766
This was forwarded to me
I removed the email addresses of the reps. MODS IS THAT ALLOWED?
ALL of these reps that voted yes had seen EVERYTHING that was out there on NS.
It's not too. late to change course!
RE: CAPT. SWINDELLS ELECTION TO MEC CHAIR
****** URGENT ACTION********
Please copy/paste this letter to send and email to your LEC representatives if you agree (names and emails below).
Feel free to edit or personalize it based on your own opinion:
No matter how talented Capt. Swindells has been with union work, there should be ZERO TOLERANCE for racism, antisemitism, and, not to mention, the sexist and bigoted remarks he has made about female and LGBTQ pilots. His true colors are there, in the open for the public to see, and I feel ashamed that this is the person that represents us. You are setting a precedent by supporting his election that this type of behavior cannot only go unpunished, but also be rewarded - and that is the governing issue here.
You wouldn’t expect United to hire a new pilot after having a history of making racist and vulgar remarks, as they do not adhere to the principles of our airline, and they definitely do not adhere to the ALPA Code Of Ethics. Furthermore, this MEC Chair position sit on the United Airlines BOD and is expected to comply with the airline's CORE4 philosophy and Mission Statement. I ask you, why would we be okay with a Master Chairman who is so blatantly disrespectful to people who do not share his views?
I am respectfully asking for the immediate resignation of Neil Swindells as the MEC Chairman.
In Unity, (your name)
______________________________________)
I removed the email addresses of the reps. MODS IS THAT ALLOWED?
ALL of these reps that voted yes had seen EVERYTHING that was out there on NS.
It's not too. late to change course!
RE: CAPT. SWINDELLS ELECTION TO MEC CHAIR
****** URGENT ACTION********
Please copy/paste this letter to send and email to your LEC representatives if you agree (names and emails below).
Feel free to edit or personalize it based on your own opinion:
No matter how talented Capt. Swindells has been with union work, there should be ZERO TOLERANCE for racism, antisemitism, and, not to mention, the sexist and bigoted remarks he has made about female and LGBTQ pilots. His true colors are there, in the open for the public to see, and I feel ashamed that this is the person that represents us. You are setting a precedent by supporting his election that this type of behavior cannot only go unpunished, but also be rewarded - and that is the governing issue here.
You wouldn’t expect United to hire a new pilot after having a history of making racist and vulgar remarks, as they do not adhere to the principles of our airline, and they definitely do not adhere to the ALPA Code Of Ethics. Furthermore, this MEC Chair position sit on the United Airlines BOD and is expected to comply with the airline's CORE4 philosophy and Mission Statement. I ask you, why would we be okay with a Master Chairman who is so blatantly disrespectful to people who do not share his views?
I am respectfully asking for the immediate resignation of Neil Swindells as the MEC Chairman.
In Unity, (your name)
______________________________________)
Is this the email that one of the pilots in management was sending out? I'm pretty sure it is. What's a management pilot doing sending out templates to line pilots to send to their reps for, anyway?
12-21-2022, 11:34 AM
#136
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Never mind that! We're busy shooting ourselves in the foot to use critical thought!!
12-21-2022, 11:51 AM
#137
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Got it from a classmate. I want the dude to quit and this sums it up nicely. Of course, my reps already got three articles sent to them highlighting their poor judgement. If you find that a manager sent that out name and shame I'm all ears. This is our mess not theirs and they need to stay the heck away.
Pay attention. This isn't a game.
Disregard. I see that you are a burner profile so my time is wasted.
12-21-2022, 05:45 PM
#138
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This is the exact same crap that happened when the Covid LOA was out and again when the Turd-TA was being promoted. All these FNGs show up out of the woodwork and school us line slob morons on whatever Todds party line is that week. As soon as the issue has been settled, they disappear. This is how they operate. None of them will go on the other forum and debate Neil or anyone else who disagrees with them.
Here's a gentle reminder, the members overwhelmingly rejected your POS TA and then tossed you and your leader. That's how they felt about your long tenure. Your union brothers, not Neil.
Here's a gentle reminder, the members overwhelmingly rejected your POS TA and then tossed you and your leader. That's how they felt about your long tenure. Your union brothers, not Neil.
12-21-2022, 06:05 PM
#139
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This is the exact same crap that happened when the Covid LOA was out and again when the Turd-TA was being promoted. All these FNGs show up out of the woodwork and school us line slob morons on whatever Todds party line is that week. As soon as the issue has been settled, they disappear. This is how they operate. None of them will go on the other forum and debate Neil or anyone else who disagrees with them.
Here's a gentle reminder, the members overwhelmingly rejected your POS TA and then tossed you and your leader. That's how they felt about your long tenure. Your union brothers, not Neil.
Here's a gentle reminder, the members overwhelmingly rejected your POS TA and then tossed you and your leader. That's how they felt about your long tenure. Your union brothers, not Neil.
You don’t have to be a toddler to see the issue with Neil.
It would be convenient to write off anyone opposed to him as “just another toddler” or “brainwashed FNG’s” but that isn’t factual, no matter how much you might wish it to be.
12-21-2022, 06:21 PM
#140
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I was cheerleading the recall efforts all the way and was actively torpedoing TA1 the whole time it was in play.
You don’t have to be a toddler to see the issue with Neil.
It would be convenient to write off anyone opposed to him as “just another toddler” or “brainwashed FNG’s” but that isn’t factual, no matter how much you might wish it to be.
You don’t have to be a toddler to see the issue with Neil.
It would be convenient to write off anyone opposed to him as “just another toddler” or “brainwashed FNG’s” but that isn’t factual, no matter how much you might wish it to be.
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