Seniority Request
09-19-2023, 02:08 PM
#11
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Joined APC: Sep 2022
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Retirements are easy to predict, growth is hard.
The ride a late ‘23 hire will have is really dependent on growth. Could be great, could be merely good.
But if you can be happy as a mid-seniority nbca or wbfo, the water is still fine.
The ride a late ‘23 hire will have is really dependent on growth. Could be great, could be merely good.
But if you can be happy as a mid-seniority nbca or wbfo, the water is still fine.
09-19-2023, 07:54 PM
#12
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Fully Retired
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I have heard at AA lots of wide body FO never upgrade to narrow body CA. The international QOL flying is very attractive to them.
09-19-2023, 08:03 PM
#13
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They don’t have “global reserve” and their commuter clause is rock solid. WB trips are easily commutable at AA and they can list for the jumpseat 8 days prior, whoever lists first gets it, seniority does not apply. It’s so good they have pilots who commute to WB FO over holding NB CA in the base they live in. I’m sure an AA pilot could swoop in and tell you more on why it’s so good.
09-20-2023, 01:48 AM
#14
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Nice to see someone else using ‘OBE’. ‘Overcome By Events’ happens often when plans are laid out.
The Newark airport has a few issues, no doubt. If one is based there, seat progression seems as good as any base, better than most.
The Newark airport has a few issues, no doubt. If one is based there, seat progression seems as good as any base, better than most.
09-20-2023, 03:43 AM
#15
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As a widebody FO I am in the same boat, I love the flying, overnights etc. I sleep well anywhere anytime so that helps. There is a part of me that thinks where the extra money can go if I was a captain, but I also know I’ll be gone at least 5 days more a month at my seniority
09-20-2023, 07:08 AM
#16
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As a widebody FO I am in the same boat, I love the flying, overnights etc. I sleep well anywhere anytime so that helps. There is a part of me that thinks where the extra money can go if I was a captain, but I also know I’ll be gone at least 5 days more a month at my seniority
09-21-2023, 06:17 PM
#17
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Joined APC: May 2023
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They don’t have “global reserve” and their commuter clause is rock solid. WB trips are easily commutable at AA and they can list for the jumpseat 8 days prior, whoever lists first gets it, seniority does not apply. It’s so good they have pilots who commute to WB FO over holding NB CA in the base they live in. I’m sure an AA pilot could swoop in and tell you more on why it’s so good.
09-21-2023, 06:51 PM
#18
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: 787 right
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They don’t have “global reserve” and their commuter clause is rock solid. WB trips are easily commutable at AA and they can list for the jumpseat 8 days prior, whoever lists first gets it, seniority does not apply. It’s so good they have pilots who commute to WB FO over holding NB CA in the base they live in. I’m sure an AA pilot could swoop in and tell you more on why it’s so good.
I would take WB FO over NB CA any day. Work one 3 day a week in Denver(all we have are 3 day trips on the 78 in Denver) or 4 days a week on the NB? Easy choice.
09-21-2023, 06:59 PM
#19
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It's a bit worse for the really senior guys, but it lets you plan, have peace of mind and it is way less stressful. Unless you are #1 at UA, you can't ever truly be sure you'll get the seat. Non-rev works in a similar way (time of check in). Don't have to compete with 50 year FA's and GA's whose longevity a pilot could never beat.
09-21-2023, 07:53 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Mar 2023
Position: AB FO
Posts: 253
The piece of mind of essentially listing for your own unpaid DH to work (if it’s available, it’s immediately yours) makes commuting significantly less stressful.
Last edited by RippinClapBombs; 09-21-2023 at 08:10 PM.
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