Snooter

Go be a nurp for brown. That video makes you look like a putz.

Flyingphi

aloa shouldn’t even pay attention to what pile of cash the company says they have to spend nor repeat it to anyone. Who cares what the company says they have to spend. I don’t care, you shouldn’t care and ALPA definitely shouldn’t care. It’s complete bs. United has 20 billion in the bank. That is the size of the pie. I can’t believe alpa fell for ‘ the pie is only so big.’ Alpa should have presented and stood by a contract that represents our worth and told the company you’re gonna need a lot more pies.

Spartacusbob

It is but he also used words like rich, and phrases like pass through. I think he is very intentional here …and I’m sort of thinking out loud here, never a good thing.

He is a smart guy. He is subtly pushing the idea, via word usage, that pilots are a bunch of rich folk whose further increase in pay will be felt by the consumer. That is detrimental to public support of the union.

If SK was really the consistent good guy his prior words made him sound to be, his word choice would have been different. Just a thought.

So-how much does SK and corporate folks earn annually? Anyone know this?

JoePatroni

You can thank Mr. Only I Can Fix This, TI, next time you see him. He is like the Smisek of union leadership.

hummingbear

This is an old game. It’s why every time we talk about a minimum wage hike people start crying about how “A hamburger’s going to cost $20!” Never mind the price of that hamburger has been steadily climbing for years while the wage of the guy making it has remained stagnant. Airfare has been consistently climbing with inflation, which means the $$$ is there for our wages to keep pace & not cause any shock to the system. But somehow us getting a raise proportional to how the market has already adjusted is going to cause pain for the general public? News flash: they’re already paying for our raise- we’re just not getting it.

Sniper66

TI would never step foot in the crew room at EWR
He is the Lorenzo

Grumble

Pilots: You never survey us, how do you know what we want?!?

Also Pilots: What’s with all these surveys?!?


Imagine trying to be a rep and please that kind of disfunction.

Pilot4000

I hope this next survey has QOL questions on it, and not just pay based questions like the last one.

NuGuy

FIFY....Filler

fadec

I told them twice already: 30%, 5%, 5%, 5% and 3% in perpetuity with full retro, no concessions, better reserve rules, and a few other things. And now after Delta's AIP with average 19% and some work rule improvements they've pulled their offer. Just WTF, over. How was their offer worse than what Delta actually got when two surveys told them to ask for more? Maybe I'm the weirdo. Maybe I'm the only one who told them I want to get paid, want to fix a few things, and don't want concessions. If that's the case, fine. But I have a hunch I'm not the only one. I suspect a good 80% or more of us told them what we want, and it was more than what's in Delta's AIP right now. Our NC doesn't listen. They didn't have surveys before because they don't want to listen. Now they only take surveys to keep up appearances and just toss the results. Obviously. What was their offer? 15% in exchange for some "minor" concessions and weak retro? I'm sure it was half of what they were told to ask for by 80% of us. And that's the problem with surveys.