Delta AIP
12-05-2022, 08:55 AM
#142
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Joined APC: May 2021
Posts: 19
A key point is Deltas now just getting pay banding, so 18% is very generic calculation and many people will be getting more there, 22%+ DOS.
We don't need to spend much negotiating capital digging out of that hole like DAL and "spending" negotiating dollars should be able to put that elsewhere, or higher end rates.
In other words, It's not apples to oranges in rates/gains either giving the disparate starting points, and we should be moving the ball forward just as far as DAL did, $7.2 billion in new costs, 45% increase in value over 4 years. And yes, that will end up in a smidge more than DAL +1% the way I see it roughly speaking.
We don't need to spend much negotiating capital digging out of that hole like DAL and "spending" negotiating dollars should be able to put that elsewhere, or higher end rates.
In other words, It's not apples to oranges in rates/gains either giving the disparate starting points, and we should be moving the ball forward just as far as DAL did, $7.2 billion in new costs, 45% increase in value over 4 years. And yes, that will end up in a smidge more than DAL +1% the way I see it roughly speaking.
12-05-2022, 09:25 AM
#143
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 138
Interesting, who exactly do you think “ALPA” is? For the animus and separation you’ve adopted, what do you think is owed to you, and by whom?
A repeating theme I see in your posts is “me” and “them”. Could it be you’re just not cut out to be part of a labor union?
Let me guess, less than three years on the property and former Air Force, current Guard baby?
A repeating theme I see in your posts is “me” and “them”. Could it be you’re just not cut out to be part of a labor union?
Let me guess, less than three years on the property and former Air Force, current Guard baby?
12-05-2022, 11:41 AM
#144
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 476
One captain ran the numbers and he would make over $300K more by staying for 12-18 months and flowing to AA than going to UA. He didn’t even bother going to interview after he ran the numbers.
12-05-2022, 11:51 AM
#145
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Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 511
Vast majority of the pilots within 18 months of flowing to AA have turned down CJO’s from UA and Delta. So that’s about 500-700 pilots staying for the pay and QOL vs going to a Legacy right away
One captain ran the numbers and he would make over $300K more by staying for 12-18 months and flowing to AA than going to UA. He didn’t even bother going to interview after he ran the numbers.
One captain ran the numbers and he would make over $300K more by staying for 12-18 months and flowing to AA than going to UA. He didn’t even bother going to interview after he ran the numbers.
12-05-2022, 01:04 PM
#146
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Joined APC: Sep 2020
Posts: 324
Vast majority of the pilots within 18 months of flowing to AA have turned down CJO’s from UA and Delta. So that’s about 500-700 pilots staying for the pay and QOL vs going to a Legacy right away
One captain ran the numbers and he would make over $300K more by staying for 12-18 months and flowing to AA than going to UA. He didn’t even bother going to interview after he ran the numbers.
One captain ran the numbers and he would make over $300K more by staying for 12-18 months and flowing to AA than going to UA. He didn’t even bother going to interview after he ran the numbers.
12-05-2022, 01:10 PM
#147
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 586
Vast majority of the pilots within 18 months of flowing to AA have turned down CJO’s from UA and Delta. So that’s about 500-700 pilots staying for the pay and QOL vs going to a Legacy right away
One captain ran the numbers and he would make over $300K more by staying for 12-18 months and flowing to AA than going to UA. He didn’t even bother going to interview after he ran the numbers.
One captain ran the numbers and he would make over $300K more by staying for 12-18 months and flowing to AA than going to UA. He didn’t even bother going to interview after he ran the numbers.
It’ll work out just fine for everyone right up until it stops working… at which point it will be too late. My advice would be don’t get greedy. If you have an offer from a place you want a career at, take the job and don’t look back.
12-05-2022, 02:01 PM
#148
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 2,501
Vast majority of the pilots within 18 months of flowing to AA have turned down CJO’s from UA and Delta. So that’s about 500-700 pilots staying for the pay and QOL vs going to a Legacy right away
One captain ran the numbers and he would make over $300K more by staying for 12-18 months and flowing to AA than going to UA. He didn’t even bother going to interview after he ran the numbers.
One captain ran the numbers and he would make over $300K more by staying for 12-18 months and flowing to AA than going to UA. He didn’t even bother going to interview after he ran the numbers.
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