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12-16-2022, 01:59 PM

#251

GPullR

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Originally Posted by Grumble

Only hull loss in North America of an A320 series was the Hudson River at the time, which probably wouldn’t have been as survivable in a guppy… lands too fast and in every accident that plane breaks into 3 parts. Every landing in a guppy feels like an emergency to the pax.

Bus is wider, quieter, more comfortable from front to back, and most importantly the toilet seat stays up.

Wrong about so much in this post. First the engine tubes in the bus were plugged up with bird parts. initially neither failed. Then one failed the other never failed. Stuck at idle. The fadec wouldn't allow it to make power. On the 737, sans fadec, you would of been able to push the power up on the one motor. Secondly in the ntsb report , sully was cited for failing to control his speed and was somewhere in the 170kts on touchdown. Remember he had full flight controls the whole way down.
An obviuisly you have no idea because a 737 landed on water in India I believe years before Scully and everyone survived. Maybe you should watch some air dissasters reruns.

12-16-2022, 02:26 PM

#252

GPullR

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Originally Posted by johnwick

Wondering if you fly an Airbus?? Do you know the difference between alternate law vs unusual attitude “abnormal” alternate law vs direct law??? This scenario comes down to the use of unauthorized procedures, and shall I say reckless behavior on the part of the captain, coupled with a complete lack of sidestick discipline. Whether the aircraft was in direct law or alternate law isn’t really the issue

I was actually stating that this wasn't the airplanes fault at all . Somebody was citing this crash .

And I don't care which I fly , pay me. I want off fifi because there is zero movement in Denver and tired of the rj flying it does. Not to mention seniority is now big difference. Didn't used to be. But not willing to take a 3 year lock. I think they both have their quirks. But it's always the fifi lovers constantly attacking the 737. Just get tired of all the massive misinformation.

12-16-2022, 04:47 PM

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XHooker

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Originally Posted by GPullR

Going into Denver in last 3 years, at least 5 times it's given up trying to protect altitude. Once with IP in right seat. All you'll get is an amber alert at fix. No light, no niose , no nothing. Known issue. Misses by 400 feet plus.

Never flew the Bus, but I've got a ridiculous amount of Guppy time and I've seen it attempt to blow through altitudes in DEN (One of the SE gate arrivals) and IAD (arrival from the south). I think the DEN arrival was a one time thing, but the IAD arrival was a consistent problem for a while. Filed FSAPs and was basically blown off and was told that it couldn't happen... whatever. Anyhow, I get what you're saying and roll my eyes at all the Guppy bashing... though a lot of it is well deserved... just want to keep the record straight that the Guppy would blow through altitudes, occasionally.