Here Come the Widebodies
12-15-2022, 03:21 PM
#231
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FiFi no doubt has her quirks, but in the 4000 hours I’ve flown her I have never seen those things, other than the +/- 20 kts in managed speed. But I will take the A320 and all her quirkiness all day, every day and twice on Sunday rather than fly the guppy with its Apollo 13 overhead panel.
the 737 is a pile. period.
12-15-2022, 06:16 PM
#233
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12-15-2022, 06:18 PM
#234
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this is such a ridiculous argument, the 737 does the same thing except it's -5 + 50. look it up. it's the only way to stay on path. in fact every one of the 737s we have descend ridiculously faster than planned even if you plug in A/I and faster tailwinds in the des forecast page.
the 737 is a pile. period.
the 737 is a pile. period.
12-15-2022, 06:28 PM
#235
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50’, 100’?
I’ve never had it dip more than 25’ or so and that’s like .2-.1 miles out without telling me. I’ve seen one miscoded arrival and the box showed that it was going to cross low and I just manually intervened. Not a surprise since it www projecting a crossing 400’ below the restriction well ahead of time.
12-15-2022, 07:09 PM
#236
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No, what you pulled from what you "showed" me was the NG subset against ALL A320s. Using your same page look at all 737 compared to all A320. There's your answer.
Also, answer me this. Do you honestly think the 737 is safer than the A320 (repeat question from post #209)?
Also, answer me this. Do you honestly think the 737 is safer than the A320 (repeat question from post #209)?
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12-15-2022, 07:26 PM
#237
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You can Google the accident report. The FO was flying when the Captain reset 2 breakers associated with the rudder. This put the aircraft into alternate law and disconnected the autopilot. The copilot was unable to fly the aircraft in alternate law and stalled it. They attempted to recover the aircraft but were working against each other with conflicting stick inputs much like AirFrance. The aircraft was never in direct law.
12-15-2022, 08:48 PM
#238
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You can Google the accident report. The FO was flying when the Captain reset 2 breakers associated with the rudder. This put the aircraft into alternate law and disconnected the autopilot. The copilot was unable to fly the aircraft in alternate law and stalled it. They attempted to recover the aircraft but were working against each other with conflicting stick inputs much like AirFrance. The aircraft was never in direct law.
12-16-2022, 04:13 AM
#239
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Wondering if you fly an Airbus?? Do you know the difference between alternate law vs unusual attitude “abnormal” alternate law vs direct law??? This scenario comes down to the use of unauthorized procedures, and shall I say reckless behavior on the part of the captain, coupled with a complete lack of sidestick discipline. Whether the aircraft was in direct law or alternate law isn’t really the issue
12-16-2022, 06:36 AM
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Only hull loss in North America of an A320 series was the Hudson River at the time, which probably wouldn’t have been as survivable in a guppy… lands too fast and in every accident that plane breaks into 3 parts. Every landing in a guppy feels like an emergency to the pax.
Bus is wider, quieter, more comfortable from front to back, and most importantly the toilet seat stays up.
Bus is wider, quieter, more comfortable from front to back, and most importantly the toilet seat stays up.
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