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12-14-2022, 05:14 AM

#171

BusBoi

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100 787s to replace the 767 and 757-300 would still be 25 growth planes going by the fleet counts on APC. Maybe as United takes over more flying from the regionals they use the 737/bus for that, and use the smaller 787s to take over some of the high demand narrowbody routes.

12-14-2022, 05:23 AM

#172

Chuck D

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We’re also essentially not flying to China right now yet haven’t shrunk. Assuming that returns at some point or to some degree it’s going to take some aircraft to do it.

12-14-2022, 06:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumble

And zero criminal charges or govt investigations for fraud and criminal negligence. Still have the trust of the global aviation community.

seriously?

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/airbus-faces-fresh-bribery-settlement-french-prosecutor-says-2022-10-25/

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/10/manslaughter-trial-2009-air-france-crash-opens-airbus-flight-af-447

and that was just a quick 10 second google search.

How many Airbus pilots and crew were killed in the A400M flight test accident?

12-14-2022, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

do you really want to go down that path?

If we take narrowbody frames alone, boeing has almost 4 times the hull and life loss as airbus.

12-14-2022, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by El Peso;[url=tel:3551401

3551401[/url]]Of course. Kirby himself said that the first 100 aircraft are really replacement aircraft. The 100 options will depend on how the market develops “but we don’t have to take all of them”.

Hilarious that some people actually thought United and United alone discovered untapped long haul revenue/demand out in the world that warranted their fleet grow by several hundred wide bodies. Geez

well apparently United did discover untapped long haul markets. We didn’t park one single Widebody and we still don’t have enough airplanes to fly our 2019 schedule…….so where did the planes go El Peso?

12-14-2022, 08:09 AM

#176

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It was 4.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33078767

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Airbus was already under pressure because the A400M project is years behind schedule and hugely over budget.

12-14-2022, 08:10 AM

#177

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Originally Posted by elmetal

do you really want to go down that path?

If we take narrowbody frames alone, boeing has almost 4 times the hull and life loss as airbus.

well they have been around longer. You want to go down that path?

12-14-2022, 08:17 AM

#178

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elmetal;[url=tel:3551530

3551530[/url]]do you really want to go down that path?

If we take narrowbody frames alone, boeing has almost 4 times the hull and life loss as airbus.

It’s much much higher than that! Boeing was building airplanes in the 20s.