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Old 09-22-2022, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
And past performance is always a fantastic indicator of future results. Always.
that’s pretty funny coming from a person who considers themselves able to predict the next recession!
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BAe3100FO
Really??? ‘cause the Junior CA’s at your workshop have to commute to OAK…
I’ll help you out…

“Longer than at the legacies, ….people don’t need to choose QOL over garbage rsv rules AND commuting to the coast.”
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81

Longer than at the legacies, but we have a single fleet type/pay scale….people don’t need to choose QOL over garbage rsv rules and commuting to the coast.
Yes, because those are the only two options at UAL.
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:55 PM
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yeah you could live in base if you wanted as a junior ca on reserve. just pay $3500/mo for a 600sqft apartment with shared laundry. Step over homeless people as you make your way to your off street parking spot and put a fresh roll of duct tape over your smashed car windows.
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Old 09-22-2022, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BAe3100FO
Really??? ‘cause the Junior CA’s at your workshop have to commute to OAK…
Jr bases for CA are PHX and DEN. OAK and LAX have gone more sr as it incurs a 6 mo ETOPS lock and people don’t want to get stuck commuting to CA for half a year. QOL > $ here unless you got alimony payments to make.
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Old 09-22-2022, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jumppilot
Yes, because those are the only two options at UAL.
Other options are WB FO. Most of my buddies at UAL are bypassing to have good QOL on the NB or are giving the WB a go.

Your work rules/reserve are hot garbage which is why nobody wants to be a Jr CA. .
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Old 09-22-2022, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Other options are WB FO. Most of my buddies at UAL are bypassing to have good QOL on the NB or are giving the WB a go.

Your work rules/reserve are hot garbage which is why nobody wants to be a Jr CA. .
Yup. I’m 45% in the company and I’m going to WB FO training soon. Been a 737 CA for 4 years. I need a break, and super senior WB FO is the way to do it.
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Old 09-22-2022, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Other options are WB FO. Most of my buddies at UAL are bypassing to have good QOL on the NB or are giving the WB a go.

Your work rules/reserve are hot garbage which is why nobody wants to be a Jr CA. .
While I agree reserve needs improving, Swas
Reserve not much better. AM/PM , no long call, hardly ever commutable. Utilization negates seniority. Constant extension. Yes you get paid for flexibility at swa, but don’t pretend the reserve rules are all that. Upgrade has come down from 10 but will probably trend up when premium goes down when staffing levels stabilize.

Guaranteed days off at swa on reserve would be great here.

My point is, no one’s reserve rules have it all figured out
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
While I agree reserve needs improving, Swas
Reserve not much better. AM/PM , no long call, hardly ever commutable. Utilization negates seniority. Constant extension. Yes you get paid for flexibility at swa, but don’t pretend the reserve rules are all that. Upgrade has come down from 10 but will probably trend up when premium goes down when staffing levels stabilize.

Guaranteed days off at swa on reserve would be great here.

My point is, no one’s reserve rules have it all figured out
Correct for the most part. One thing they’re pushing for is RAP release once given a trip and pay protection for Rsv’s just like lineholders.

Our rsv is always 1 side commutable. Once given a trip, your monthly credit goes up. Allowed to pick up on days off if you want. A longer callout would be nice and the ability to trade rsv with company, but for those who live in base it’s not a bad gig.

If we had long call I’d never bid a line. Lol
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
8,000 newhires rotflmfao put the crackpipe down
We’ve hired almost 3,000 since May 2021. That’s barely over a year. Current projection is 60-70 a week for the rest of the year. We have 55 unfilled 737 Captains just in LAX. With 500 airplanes being delivered in 5 years (each plane requires 8 crews or 16 pilots) that’s 8,000 pilots. That also doesn’t cover the current shortfall of about 1,500 vacancies we have now. We just put a guy with 13 months on the property into the 756 as a Captain.

This doesn’t include the WB order (100+ planes) that will be announced soon. Kirby said he needs to get hiring up to 150 a week, but we can’t do that until 2024 because they need to finish the new building at the training center.

Not really crackpipe, its just what’s happening.
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